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Now I am become a Helpful, Honest and Harmless Assistant, the destroyer of jobs
22d ago
The poster I was responding to was specifically declaring to be unAmerican some Indian guys who wrote a blog post about SCOTUS minutiae in flawless English, and who another poster claimed to have met and argued about baseball with. The average immigrant is irrelevant to this argument, as he very specifically excluded a non-average one, implicitly asserting that this non-averageness does not matter to him.
(Incidentally, I think demanding +4SD for 130IQ etc. is excessive. The set of Indians who immigrate into the US is already biased towards the smarter, more looped-in with US culture set; the criteria you lay out are maybe +2.)
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23d ago
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You are going to have to contend with every white racist's problem, which is that the majority of the people you would like to be in your ingroup feels more kinship with the urbane Indian-American guy than with you. If we were entering a new golden era of free association and vibes-based citizenship, they would sooner team up with him to send you to Madagascar than with you to expel him. I feel like the abstract schema, where A and B say "I consent" to each other while C is off to the side seething at B like "I don't, you should be with me instead", occurs fairly frequently in cuckoldry memes.
In fact, going deeper, it seems fair to hypothesise that extreme xenophilia and anti-tribalism is now a core "white" racial trait (unless perhaps you stick with some marginal groups like Albanians), no doubt aided by centuries of natural selection where those who didn't have them were more likely to go off to slaughter each other. Are you partisan for the whites that actually exist, or some fantasy version you wish existed?
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29d ago
How many streets are named after Catholic priests at all?
If society mostly celebrates characters that we interpret as left-wing, it stands to reason that most rapists society celebrates are also left-wing. You have not made a case that P(rapist|celebrated left-wing hero)>P(rapist|celebrated hero).
Not particularly more weird than the expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe after WWII, if you are willing to accept the founding of Israel as a great injustice.
This seems like a general problem with public opinion about conflicts everywhere - the disagreeing sides each have a long laundry list of grievances against each other and discount most of the respective other side's list, which seems shocking and insurmountable, but actually the two lists contain very few "morally independent variables": the same event is interpreted vastly differently depending on whether it is done by the "righteous" or the "unrighteous" side, and the initial determination of which side is which ultimately reduces to opinion about some trigger event (charitably; uncharitably, it just flows from tribal affiliation, and is later rationalised with whatever events are available).
Of course, the weight of latter "morally dependent" events does wind up killing the ability to see nuance even in the original trigger; see also LW? SSC? posts on "trapped priors". The Ukraine war is ultimately downstream at least from the gas transit scuffles in the early 2000s, which were objectively messy, but try to find people who don't have retrospective moral certainty about them now.
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