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Now I am become a Helpful, Honest and Harmless Assistant, the destroyer of jobs

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Now I am become a Helpful, Honest and Harmless Assistant, the destroyer of jobs

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There is a reason there has been a generational project by progressives in education to put that word out of your cognitive reach.

[citation needed]. I see them use it as enthusiastically as ever, it's just that they just it for different things (as you would expect from people with different values).

Perhaps the way to square the circle is to frame it as an accessibility question for war volunteers, not euthanasia. Why should the terminally ill grandma or the depressed TikToker be denied their opportunity to die to defend Democracy in Ukraine, if they want to? If need be, we can roll their wheelchair straight into the flight path of a Russian drone, and (at $300 surcharge) even let them hold a rifle in their last moments for the aesthetics. Maybe the Russians can be persuaded to play along and provide a preagreed time and place in return for partial sanctions relief.

(I don't know what percentage of pro-lifers also has a categorical revulsion towards making women fight in a war, but surely it is much less than 100?)

I don't see how that is so different from the person who wants to remove the fence in Chesterton's parable. He is also implied to be an outsider (as his conversation partner is in a position to let or not let him remove the fence). On that matter, discrimination of gays can be narrated as having ended because the social structures of the Red Tribe were conquered by the Blue Tribe, who (--"--).

A properly Chestertonian course of action, and indeed one that would be in line with attempted explanations for the practice that emerged much later, would have the Spanish think something like "huh, all the peoples around here are doing human sacrifice. Maybe there is some deep reason why it is adaptive for them in these lands. We should leave it alone until we figure out why".

If you don't accept this, it seems to me, the Fence rule only really imposes any restrictions on lone maverick reformers, who are rarely in a position to make sweeping rule changes anyway. Any group that can tear down fences on the level of national moral law in the US has to have been around and building its power base for a long time, and its proposed changes more often than not are consequences of its own deep history of moral preferences.

That's not a slur any more than "nigga" is; the people who use it generally consider it to include themselves (as I did here) or use it with a tinge of admiration.

I'm not sure I see the implication that their opinion would change if the practice is not as strict or rigorous. Going solely by form, I would only expect that they make the argument because they think that your opinion would change if it is, which seems like a sensible default if you are trying to argue across value system lines with the intention to win.

(It's a separate question if we, here should expect better. Rationalist values say yes: if you can imagine an argument that would change your mind, you should help the other side make it as best as you can, "that which can be destroyed by the truth should be", Litany of Tarski et cetera. However this is one part of rationalist values that goes deeply against culture warrior values, which say that the last thing you would want is to betray your cause and people by helping others shake your faith.)

Do you believe life would in fact be better, per your own value function, on the balance if inexplicable fences were always and everywhere respected as suggested in Chesterton's parable? You might have gotten some more decades of prohibition on homosexuality (until some threshold of medical advances is met), but you might also have gotten another 300 years of Mesoamerican human sacrifice culture (I figure it took at least this much until science had gotten to a point where it tried to give plausible rational explanations for why that tradition emerged and persisted).

Yeah, this is about right. From the other side, this juxtaposition is about as compelling as comparing trendlines of American workplace accidents resulting in loss of limb to Canadian hospital amputations and thinking it will BTFO the commies who support OSHA. ("More people are dismembered each year by Canadian doctors than by American factory floors!")

I can't say I remember what exactly happened (did our stewards ever outright list what the Reddit overlords demanded of them in the end?), but I was under the impression that it was about much more than that, and there were specific demands from admins to ban particular opinions (content, not tone). Moderating on tone used to be touted as a core principle of this community, and it served it rather well, if you compare the quality of top posts when it was in place vs. now. Do slurs serve any purpose other than either pissing off those they are directed against (and their allies), or inducing camaraderie among those who know them and oppose those they are directed against? I don't see how gratuitously provoking irrational anger in some subset of readers could possibly make this forum better for its stated purpose, nor how allowing some users to bond over any shared identity (other than perhaps being a high-decoupling turboautist) would.

Is there any sort of objective data on this?

I'm so looped out of the modern state of film that I had to google to even find out what she looks like, but she doesn't look less attractive to me than the median highly praised by men film star from back when I actually watched films, like, say, Keira Knightley. On a forum like this, opinions are doubly suspect; people's political opinions influence their aesthetic ones more than they tend to realise, and so I would expect many of the same people saying "slender teenage boy lacking in femininity" towards someone who apparently has a reputation for being a diversity casting prop to be gushing about her cuteness if she were a based and redpilled MAGA princess instead.

Are we going to ignore the elephant in the room that is AI? It is bound to do something to the university system, even if it is just further decoupling the college experience from hard skills. If humans do not intellectually contribute to the object-level problems in the workplace anymore, then there can not be any pretense that any job requirements for them are about anything other than manners, that is, how they relate to other people; and so college will have to go all in on its role as finishing school.

I think we've had this discussion here more than once before, but there's a general failure of theory of mind between men with "tits and ass, more is better" preferences towards female physique and those with "thin and elegant, strong but fragile" ones, with each suspecting the other of preference falsification or being somehow fundamentally defective.

Your gloss is pretty good (and, unironically, I appreciate that you theory-of-minded me fairly there). In my defense, I don't think you were saying what you mean when you chose to use "foid" either; and I don't think I've been exactly hiding my long-standing frustration with how the community rewards and moderators allow free-wheeling use of slurs in service of right-wing positions (as long as they are not crossing the window frame against racism that was already in place ca. 1980). In this situation, detached sarcasm feels like the only available outlet.

The parent poster fantasises about stoning, a punishment that is only known/relevant in our cultural context due to its preservation in the memetic time capsule of the Levant ca. 500BC that is Old Testament Christianity. The reference to Jack Chick, as one of the most internet-famous proponents of Old Testament morality, is apt enough.

(All the more so because I don't even think the Old Testament, or other historical texts, tend to opine particularly strongly on transsexualism or crossdressing per se. Once you get into "apply Old Testament punishments to modern American bugbears, while entertaining the belief that this is a human universal" territory, Jack Chick becomes a very iconic choice indeed.)