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17hr ago
Do the likes of Amodei actually believe those things, or is this outgroup homogeneity bias?
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22hr ago
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I don't think this is primarily a pro-choice/pro-life story at all. One of the kids she killed was five years old; even an extreme pro-choicer like me (on the record here before saying that I would not really personally detest parents who postnatally aborted a one-month-old) thinks this is unambiguously murder of a human being and should be treated as such. (Also, the usual kind of failure of theory of mind between tribes. No, we really do not believe fetuses are human. Being pro-abortion is really not particularly about women; I had my share of irresponsible unprotected sex back in the days, and felt very reassured by the existence of legal and easily accessed abortion.)
Instead, this is obviously just the usual case of the forces of tribalism having randomly coalesced around some nearly random figure, with the significance of the case for each tribe mostly having become how much significance it has for the other. Whether Clancy is convicted or not would primarily have the effect that it would be a visible public defeat for all the people who staked significant attention and political capital on the opposite outcome. If she is acquitted, it would bias expectations in future conflicts towards "women can get away with anything"; if she is convicted, it would bias expectations towards "all the efforts of women activists can't get one woman acquitted".
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23hr ago
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the Soviet Armenian one with its unusual scale
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Turkey as the pinnacle of the martial ones
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Israel though Smetana's Moldau is the better version of the melody and the Czechs should just replace theirs with it
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Taiwan does not stand out on any single quality, but is near the top in every category that I would score national anthems in: it's dignified, pleasant to listen to, the lyrics offer a positive vision for the country, the text is poetic and reflects the national character (with how it is entirely in four-character verse).
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1d ago
Well, on the other hand, they only need to hold out until 2029 for presumable Democrat domination, at which point the street cred from having received such a personal token of Trump's ire will probably greatly work in their favour. In their eyes a bet that the Singularity does not happen until then is probably risky, but not downright untenable; if they determined that they will not get their regulatory regime under him, hunkering down and refusing to further stain your reputation on the other side with compromise may be the least bad strategy.
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1d ago
What exactly was the UK bill about? "Assisted dying" in the culture-warred about, Canadian sense generally involves conscious people wanting to have themselves euthanised. That seems much more rare than the "braindead adult taken off life support" cases like Terri Schiavo (sp?), which seem more similar to this one. Those are also completely legal in the UK, and I have not seen OP or anyone else complain about instances of it in ages. You can dismiss the "controlling sexuality" theory as projection or otherwise all you want, but as I said that is not very compelling when you are not offering an alternative theory for why this is.
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1d ago
One thing I do wonder about, what is your perspective on why this story is uniquely outrageous? Given the medical history, it seems to me more similar than usual to the numerous cases of the life support plug being pulled on the comatose and braindead of more advanced age. I'm aware that Christians tend to not particularly like those either, if prompted, but there does not seem to be that much of an organised opposition and ultimately they are just not what the outrage machine winds up putting on the frontpages of the internet. At the same time, neither the article you linked nor you seem to be pushing an angle suggesting that children are somehow more precious or morally valuable than adults; the focus is instead squarely on the adults making the decision.
Given this, you should understand why it is so easy for your outgroup to convince itself and the NPCface peanut gallery that pro-life activism is really about controlling women's sexuality. The account in which the pro-life activist is theory-of-minded as thinking something like "finally a woman got saddled with the deserved consequences [that is, being a joyless full-time caretaker who stays in the home] of all her fornicating, and now she is trying to weasel herself out of them!", however uncharitable, at least explains all the observations. If pro-lifers have a better account of what is actually the value function according to which they decide what to be outraged about, they have not succeeded in letting it be widely known.
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2d ago
As I said in a different subthread, for me "human" is more load-bearing than "sentient" here, so I don't particularly like abbreviating to the latter, but sure.
In short, I take humans' moral value to lie in the unique configuration that their hardware compresses the totality of their human life experience into - more poetically, their "memories and personality", and more mechanistically, in ML terms, the "weights" as opposed to the "architecture".
Slightly related to the common computationalist saying that compression is intelligence: many years worth of human qualia is a large pile of mildly interesting data, but that information lossily squeezed into ~1kg of meat in a way that enables the meat to act in interesting ways and reprocess/reproduce parts of that data is a marvel.
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2d ago
I don't actually think 9 months post conception is particularly human (the "human" part of "sentient human" is doing more work for me) either; it's just a convenient cutoff point since before it it for sure isn't and afterwards the cutoff is different for every instance.
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3d ago
Since you apparently presume to know my definition, can you state it in your own words?
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3d ago
Because some of us think that fetuses are qualitatively different from children. Children meet my definition of sentient human beings, but fetuses don't.
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3d ago
+1 for the parents, cautiously. I'm receptive to arguments about bodily autonomy/finding an economic system where poor people are incentivised to be walking incubators to be distasteful, but at the same time so far there is no legal clarity against it and I don't think there should be takesies-backsies when society couldn't get itself to ban something but then didn't like the outcome.
Also, taking for granted that weakening surrogacy contracts like this is halfway to banning it, it's not like surrogacy doesn't have its good sides, from a eugenic perspective as much as for the personal good of the would-be genetic parents.
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6d ago
In the end, of course the Soviet guy still proposes one that just so happens to inflate the Soviet Union (I suppose Canada and Scandinavia are acceptable stowaways in this "uplift"). I would like to see a tabular comparison of all the projections by how they scale each region/power bloc, along with the origins of their proponents.
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6d ago
Google Ads, if I recall correctly, cost on the order of $0.01 per impression. Even if we assume advertisers were willing to pay 10 times as much per print "impression" (questionable, since those can't be targeted as well and don't have a link you can bait people into clicking), how many ads would be needed in a magazine to recoup the writing, printing and distribution costs? If this is like $10 per copy (which seems like a realistic ballpark figure given the price at which glossy ad-free magazines are sold), there would have to be about 100 ads in it.
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6d ago
The big AI labs are mostly staffed by people straight out of academia, be they researchers or enthusiastic star undergrads. There is a lot of metis on locking down corporate systems that never had a chance to propagate into their operations, and the more general pattern of "SV startups fail to do something that is baseline common sense for more traditional companies" has been observed many times before.
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6d ago
The realignment is totally unsurprising if you accept that the US parties represent different tribes, rather than any universal political principles or approaches to government. Whichever party represents the tribe that is on top will want to cement the advantage, conserve the circumstances that put it there, jealously guard the wealth and integrity of the state that is an extension of the winning tribe's volition, and reinforce its power to keep its enemies down. The one that represents the underdog will want the opposite of all that, to subvert the culture, overturn hierarchies, constrain and weaken the state and redistribute its assets.
As the Wheel of Fortune turns, if you are caught up in the idea that D/R mean left/right mean concrete political beliefs, you are bound to be surprised at the parties supposedly "betraying their principles" or undulating sinusoidally.
(1) if I'm constitutionally (e.g. by way of brain damage, retardation, locked-in coma or otherwise) incapable of voicing my protest, then I would hope someone makes that decision
(2) if you write your ethics based on asking people "what if it happened to you", you will get rules like death penalty for especially ego-shattering insults.
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