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1d ago
With Cuba, it's (unfortunately?) really hard to make a convincing argument that its situation had nothing to do with enemy action. If it really were so intrinsically dysfunctional, the US would perhaps have done better to leave it alone and give it all the rope it needs to hang itself with, making it into a cautionary tale, but as it stands, no peoples trying to decide on what economic or political system to support will be taking away any lesson other than "don't piss off a superpower when you are stuck in its backyard with no allies that are willing and able to help" (a lesson I'm sure Ukraine will come around to eventually, and even Taiwan might learn if it doesn't drown in a sudden deluge of LCLpaperclips first).
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3d ago
prevalence of sexual contact by 12 is about 5%
Can the "was sexually assaulted in the sense of the Aella survey but didn't classify it as 'sexual contact' for the purpose of the other one" set be discounted? I can imagine that the latter survey was framed in a way that suggested consensual or at least peer encounters.
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3d ago
The Arab countries forcibly expelled all Sephardic Jews in 1948 after Israel won its independence (also weird how this was totally okay but Israel actions during the 1948 war are "genocide" or "ethnic cleansing"
Not particularly more weird than the expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe after WWII, if you are willing to accept the founding of Israel as a great injustice.
This seems like a general problem with public opinion about conflicts everywhere - the disagreeing sides each have a long laundry list of grievances against each other and discount most of the respective other side's list, which seems shocking and insurmountable, but actually the two lists contain very few "morally independent variables": the same event is interpreted vastly differently depending on whether it is done by the "righteous" or the "unrighteous" side, and the initial determination of which side is which ultimately reduces to opinion about some trigger event (charitably; uncharitably, it just flows from tribal affiliation, and is later rationalised with whatever events are available).
Of course, the weight of latter "morally dependent" events does wind up killing the ability to see nuance even in the original trigger; see also LW? SSC? posts on "trapped priors". The Ukraine war is ultimately downstream at least from the gas transit scuffles in the early 2000s, which were objectively messy, but try to find people who don't have retrospective moral certainty about them now.
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5d ago
The poster I was responding to was specifically declaring to be unAmerican some Indian guys who wrote a blog post about SCOTUS minutiae in flawless English, and who another poster claimed to have met and argued about baseball with. The average immigrant is irrelevant to this argument, as he very specifically excluded a non-average one, implicitly asserting that this non-averageness does not matter to him.
(Incidentally, I think demanding +4SD for 130IQ etc. is excessive. The set of Indians who immigrate into the US is already biased towards the smarter, more looped-in with US culture set; the criteria you lay out are maybe +2.)
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5d ago
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You are going to have to contend with every white racist's problem, which is that the majority of the people you would like to be in your ingroup feels more kinship with the urbane Indian-American guy than with you. If we were entering a new golden era of free association and vibes-based citizenship, they would sooner team up with him to send you to Madagascar than with you to expel him. I feel like the abstract schema, where A and B say "I consent" to each other while C is off to the side seething at B like "I don't, you should be with me instead", occurs fairly frequently in cuckoldry memes.
In fact, going deeper, it seems fair to hypothesise that extreme xenophilia and anti-tribalism is now a core "white" racial trait (unless perhaps you stick with some marginal groups like Albanians), no doubt aided by centuries of natural selection where those who didn't have them were more likely to go off to slaughter each other. Are you partisan for the whites that actually exist, or some fantasy version you wish existed?
I think this is not a very compelling thought experiment, because you clearly just took the present American dynamic about intelligence and imagined a world in which a completely analogous set of norms and hangups is in place involving height, without a believable story of how those dynamics would have developed over time or what internal logic makes them tick. Would height=morality world have gone through a phase where an elite of tall people was taken to have an unquestionable divine right to rule, with cautionary tales about the failures of countries where shorties called the shots? What sort of developments did it take for this phase to end? Height and intelligence are different in a great many other ways, like how your height is immediately apparent from afar, objectively measurable with little effort, doesn't change greatly based on environment or transient effects like substance consumption, and so on. Would this not make dissimulation about height much harder, and possibly (if the possible gains are sufficiently high) result in a development of a whole slew of social and physical technology to conceal height?
For a similar reason, I've been finding just about every "isekai where sociosexual behaviour of men and women is reversed" manga out there trite and disappointing. An allegory between things that are not actually similar, asking you to essentially imagine if the dissimilar thing were the same as your target subject in every way that matters for your argument but like its real self otherwise, does not add information for those who don't already agree with you - "imagine if actually pedophilia were legal and having sex with over-16s were illegal and taboo" "imagine if actually Crowleyan magick were real, and science and technology accepted to be woo" "imagine if actually communist societies were rich and successful and capitalism discredited for not being able to provide for the people's basic needs" etc.
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