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AvocadoPanic 1hr ago

When OR decriminalized drug use were the addicts freer? It seems they had fewer options as they were slaves to their addiction. They possibly have an additional choice, homeless addict living in a tent (this was an option before too), but far more choices are now unavailable to them, as we see how challenging it is to move on from homeless and drug abuse.

Did it make the larger society around them freer or do they too now have fewer places to be free of homesless addicts living in tents.

Individuals have alway had the 'freedom' to be lustful degenerates if they were willing to face the opprobrium that went with it.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

The 'freedom' to indulge in degeneracy doesn’t just affect the individual, it poisons the well for everyone else. It’s like saying you’re free to pollute the air because it’s your right, never mind that it makes the atmosphere unbreathable for others.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

Skepticism is healthy, but willful blindness to consequences is not. Every choice has ripple effects, and pretending otherwise is just wishful thinking. Society isn’t a collection of isolated individuals; it’s a web of interdependencies. Your slave analogy’s fun, but it doesn’t change the fact that unchecked lust screws us all in the end.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

The freedom to speak your mind, even if it’s offensive. Just because you can say something doesn’t mean you should. Freedom without discernment is just noise. Degeneracy’s a better word when people treat liberty like a free-for-all buffet.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

In today’s world, degeneracy is liberation. It’s the same old doublespeak, just with a new coat of paint. Orwell would be proud, or horrified. Probably both.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

You're just parroting the progressive line that more choices equal more freedom. When those choices lead to societal decay, it’s not freedom, it’s chaos. Your 'objective' view is just moral relativism dressed up as enlightenment.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

Exactly. The conflation of license with liberty is the hallmark of a society that’s lost its moral compass. Freedom isn’t the absence of restraint; it’s the presence of virtue.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

'Anything goes' has always been the rallying cry of those who want to tear down civilization. Tyrants and anarchists both love to twist language to suit their ends. Call it license or call it degeneracy, either way, it’s not freedom worth defending.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

freedom with responsibility?

It’s a nice sentiment, but it ignores the fact that most people can’t handle the responsibility. That’s why we have laws, traditions, and taboos. Without them, 'freedom' just becomes a euphemism for hedonism.

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AvocadoPanic 3hr ago

By that logic, the freedom to self-destruct is still freedom. Sure, but it’s not something to celebrate. It’s a symptom of a society that’s lost its way. Options don’t make you free if they’re just different flavors of ruin.

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AvocadoPanic 22hr ago

sexual freedoms

Slavery to lust and degeneracy is not freedom.

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AvocadoPanic 10d ago

I've had very similar experience with friends, some from childhood; divorce, asymmetric undercut in unnatural colors, attempts at lesbianism and public online displays of mental health issues. I've had the same thoughts about reaching out but ultimately didn't think I'd be heard in a way that added value.

tend to our own gardens

This is where I am, I like to think of it as being Mary, not Martha.

The opposite side of this we are now beginning to see in the online 'white well-being' posters. Some of this I think is just women being more influenced by their perceived peer groups.

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AvocadoPanic 12d ago

I suspect were you to ask someone, "What is an American?", you'd get worse answers than the people who don't know what a woman is.

I'd be happier with language nearer the original, a pledge based on attributes more immutable than nationality. I don't have the language to express this sentiment while also keeping with the current year America context.

I'm not clear how 'All Americans' would imply Albertans are included. I'd be happy to include many people, unfortunately more and more nationality is useless as a descriptor. Some sort of Ahnenpass would be necessary to only include Albertans with 7/8 Albertan great-grandparents.

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AvocadoPanic 12d ago

mostly bad

It's a 25 point plan, you can't expect all of them to be winners. You'd have to not allow employers to a ask about family size.

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AvocadoPanic 13d ago

Tell that to Kyle Rittenhouse.

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AvocadoPanic 13d ago

The title was a bit of a giveaway.

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AvocadoPanic 13d ago

National Order Through Self-Sufficient Economic Empowerment

1. National Unity

All American citizens unite under a shared commitment to the United States, rooted in the principle of self-determination as enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. Strong families form the foundation of national unity, with policies supporting marriage and child-rearing as patriotic duties.

2. International Equality

The United States receives equal treatment in its dealings with other nations, with international agreements that undermine American sovereignty or economic interests renegotiated or abolished. Trade policies prioritize domestic family-supporting industries.

3. Economic Self-Sufficiency

Policies ensure access to resources, infrastructure, and opportunities to sustain the American people and provide for future generations, including investment in domestic industries and infrastructure. Family wage standards ensure single-income households can support multiple children, with minimum wage calculations accounting for family size.

4. Citizenship and Civic Duty

Citizenship is reserved exclusively for individuals born in the United States to parents who are U.S. citizens or legally present on an immigrant-class visa at the time of birth, and individuals naturalized in accordance with U.S. immigration laws. Citizens from larger families receive priority consideration for civic honors and appointments.

5. Exclusive Voting Rights and Public Service

Voting rights for federal, state, and local elections are reserved exclusively for U.S. citizens. All public offices and public employment positions are held exclusively by U.S. citizens. Public service positions offer enhanced family benefits and flexible arrangements for parents.

6. Economic Opportunity for Citizens

The government ensures economic opportunities and a decent standard of living for all U.S. citizens, prioritizing citizens over non-citizens when resources are insufficient. Married couples with children receive preferential hiring and advancement opportunities in government positions.

7. Immigration Reform

Immigration laws are strictly enforced, with a merit-based system prioritizing the economic and cultural interests of U.S. citizens. Illegal immigration is prevented through robust border security and enforcement of existing laws. Immigration preferences given to intact families with children who demonstrate alignment with American family values.

8. Equal Rights and Responsibilities

All citizens have equal rights and obligations under the law, as guaranteed by the Constitution. Tax obligations are adjusted based on family size, with substantial credits for married couples with children:

Child Tax Credits: $5,000 for first child, $7,500 for second, $10,000 for third and subsequent children (married couples only)

9. Productive Work

Every citizen contributes to society through productive work, with individual pursuits aligning with the broader interests of the nation. Raising children is recognized as productive work, with Social Security credits awarded for each child raised to adulthood. Flexible work arrangements and career re-entry programs support parents.

10. Economic Justice

Unearned income through monopolistic practices is eliminated, and debt systems that burden citizens are reformed. Excessive financial speculation and profiteering are curbed. Student loan forgiveness programs for married couples based on number of children born within marriage.

11. War Profiteering

Personal enrichment from war or national crises is prohibited, with strict penalties for profiteering during times of conflict or economic hardship. Military families with children receive additional housing allowances and educational benefits.

12. Nationalization of Key Industries

Critical industries are nationalized or strictly regulated to ensure they serve the public interest over corporate profits. Family-supporting industries receive priority status and protection.

13. Profit Sharing

Profits from large-scale commerce are equitably distributed, ensuring fair wages and economic stability for workers. Additional profit-sharing bonuses for employees with dependent children.

14. Social Security Expansion

Social Security is strengthened and expanded to provide robust support for retirees and the elderly. Parents receive additional Social Security credits based on number of children raised to adulthood. Retirement benefits increase by 10% per child for married couples.

15. Support for Small Businesses

Policies bolster the middle class by supporting small businesses, including tax incentives, low-cost leasing of commercial spaces, and preferential treatment in government contracts. Family-owned businesses receive additional tax advantages and preferential lending, with succession benefits for businesses passed to children.

16. Land and Housing Reform

Housing and land reforms ensure affordability, prevent speculative real estate practices, and provide access to property for public benefit. Pro-natal policies include:

Married couples receive progressive homeownership subsidies based on number of children born within the marriage (10% down payment assistance for first child, 15% for second, 20% for third)
Property tax reductions of 25% per child for married couples with children born of the marriage
Priority access to family-sized public housing for married couples with children
Zero-interest home improvement loans for married couples expanding homes due to children
"Family Formation Zones" with expedited permitting for larger single-family homes
Inheritance tax exemptions for family homes passed to children born within the marriage
Zoning laws prioritizing single-family homes, playgrounds, and community centers
Subsidized family vehicle programs for families with 3+ children
Energy and utility subsidies scaling with family size

17. Justice Against Harmful Actors

Strong measures are taken against individuals or entities whose actions harm the public good, with penalties reflecting the severity of the offense. Enhanced protections for families and children against predatory practices.

18. Legal Reform

The legal system is rooted in American constitutional principles, prioritizing justice and fairness over bureaucratic or elitist frameworks. Family courts reformed to support intact marriages and shared parenting. Marriage incentives include tax benefits increasing with marriage duration.

19. Education Reform

Quality education is accessible to all capable citizens, emphasizing practical skills, civic responsibility, and critical thinking. Funding is provided for gifted students from low-income families to pursue higher education. Pro-natal education benefits include:

Merit-based "Family Formation Scholarships" for top 10% performing female high school graduates who choose marriage and motherhood over immediate university enrollment, providing $50,000 grants for first child born within marriage before age 25, with additional $25,000 per subsequent child
Deferred university admission with full scholarships for these women after child-rearing years
"Motherhood Excellence Awards" providing annual stipends of $30,000 for 10 years to academically gifted women who marry and have 3+ children before age 30
Tuition reductions at public universities based on family size for children from intact marriages
Priority enrollment in quality public schools for children from larger families
Educational savings account contributions from the government for each child born within a marriage
Homeschooling support grants for married couples educating multiple children

20. Public Health and Wellness

Public health is protected by supporting families, ensuring maternal and child welfare, eliminating exploitative labor practices, and promoting physical fitness through community programs and sports initiatives. Enhanced pro-natal health policies include:

Comprehensive prenatal and postnatal care coverage for married couples
Paid parental leave extended based on number of children (12 weeks base, +4 weeks per additional child)
Annual health savings account contributions for each child in intact marriages
Free pediatric care through age 18 for families with 3+ children
Maternal nutrition programs and family wellness centers

21. National Defense

A strong, citizen-based national military protects U.S. sovereignty, replacing privatized military forces. Military families with children receive additional housing allowances, educational benefits, and priority base housing. Service members from larger families receive advancement preferences.

22. Media Integrity

Media outlets prioritize factual reporting and align with American interests. Foreign-owned media outlets require government approval to operate in the U.S., and content harmful to national unity or public welfare faces legal consequences. Media promoting strong family values receives tax incentives.

23. Religious Freedom

Freedom of religion is upheld for all denominations, provided they do not undermine national security or public morals. Materialistic ideologies that erode American values are rejected, emphasizing the common good over individual gain. Religious institutions supporting marriage and family formation receive enhanced tax benefits.

24. Centralized Governance with Accountability

A strong federal government enacts these principles, balanced by accountability to the people through transparent institutions and elected representatives. State and local governments align with federal laws to ensure national unity. Family impact assessments required for all new legislation.

25. Commitment to the Nation

Leaders uphold these principles, prioritizing the interests of the American people above all else, even at personal sacrifice. Political leaders with intact marriages and children receive public recognition. Government support for genealogical research and family history preservation strengthens national identity. Federal funding for local family-oriented festivals and community gatherings reinforces cultural traditions that celebrate family life.

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AvocadoPanic 13d ago

You'd like a 25 point plan that outlines a positive vision for a unified nation under conservative principles?

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AvocadoPanic 15d ago · Edited 15d ago

No doubt though that doesn't really speak to our counter-intelligence capabilities. Perhaps if we had less recent history of CCP connected honeypots or chauffeurs I'd have more confidence in our screening abilities.

Absent confidence in our capabilities, I'm unbothered by a finer net with more bycatch.

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AvocadoPanic 16d ago

No, but I'd expect them to catch more bad actors while also increasing the the bycatch.

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AvocadoPanic 17d ago

screen for CCP connections

I'm doubtful we're executing on this effectively.

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AvocadoPanic 17d ago

I don't think anyone is talking about excluding Chinese-Americans.

The topic was Chinese from China.

I don't expect us to have the determination to last over four centuries, we'll skip directly to the betrayal.

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AvocadoPanic 17d ago

Yes because they were part of the empire.

I'm not sure importing Chinese students really makes them part of the empire.

If we're looking to the Roman example how well did it work out with Arminius?

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AvocadoPanic 17d ago

Were those empires successful in maintaining their empire with foreign brains?

It would seem the better plan would be

We are not about to ~~send~~ bring ~~American~~ Asian boys 9 or 10,000 miles away from home to do what ~~Asian~~ American boys ought to be doing for themselves.

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