BinaryHobo
hauling up the data on the Xerox line
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BinaryHobo
hauling up the data on the Xerox line
21d ago
Is an orange apple any part orange? There are many subcategories of orange, but is an apple which has been colored orange in any of them?
I was referring to orange the color alone, not the fruit. Insisting it's an orange would, in fact, be linguistic trickery.
But that's not the part of your comment I disagree with. I disagree with your assertion that the category of "trans women" implies a particular belief of the user of that term. Especially the one you've put forward. I think it's a bad argument.
I don't have a particular problem with your further arguments. They're much better than your original one, you should have lead with them. In fact, I vehemently agree with this part:
Changing the words does not change the underlying reality of what they're describing
No, I'm positing that the category {adjective}-{noun}, does not automatically imply zero overlap with category {noun}.
Correct, it still belongs to the super category. That's why I think your argument is so dumb. Your argument is because people have categorized something into a subcategory, they no longer believe it's part of the super category.
Specifically this part:
Your argument, translated into your apple example, involves accusing people of thinking it's no longer an apple because they called it "orange apple". Apple's right there in the name, it's unlikely any human being means that.
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