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A technology can end up being dominant and important but still throw off bubbles in the meantime. Stuff like the early Dotcom bubble where everybody could see that the internet was going to be important, and yet funds were allocated to the wrong manifestations of that. Alternatively, some tech is hugely meaningful and yet a motherfucker to actually capitalize on as an individual private company.

I really hope people with heart attacks, cancer appointments, etc still went

A bunch of diagnostic services were cancelled which didn't necessarily reduce the amount of Triage attendees but impacted the discovery of major issues.

It would still largely hit those who were already the unhealthiest which is going to reduce the short and medium-term burden on the system.

This is literal insanity. Arguably the main theme of modern Western politics is the gigantic population overhang of the Ageing population and figuring out how to balance the books in the face of it. COVID with gigantic, unwieldly response and maximal attribution as a cause of death hit barely anybody at a global scale. If it had been allowed to 'rip' it likely would have produced significantly better outcomes for most advanced economies.

Also even the absolute worst case of a COVID epidemic isn't even that bad.

Western societies are currently getting absolutely beset with immigration and other such policies to try and offset the population pyramid getting stacked with the elderly and their associated costs. COVID would have ameliorated a lot of that if there were minimal responses.

The panic for the first two months or so I don't think was totally insane, but the continued cargo culting for another 2 years was nuts.

Fair didn't realize it was relatively affordable.

My 3x number was working in the Australian domestic scene where it has been legal/easily available for decades and still it tripled overnight. USA it was crazy since most states only came online into COVID conditions and a lot of low interest rate funds went nuts investing since they thought they were seeing the baseline numbers for a new product instead of 'here is the once-a-century harvest'

As somebody working in online gambling at the time there was a roughly 3x volume spike from the COVID lockdown era, and it managed to trigger a bunch of shifts like getting the broader public into cryptocurrency and causing a changing of the guard in the biggest operators partly due to crypto + differences in media consumption.

Wouldn't shock me if Onlyfans had a similar impact on pornography.

I mean if you're gonna die anyway and you have the resources of a Walt Disney or whatever where you can essentially pay in perpetuity I don't see anything wrong with purchasing a lottery ticket. Even identifying the many issues with the hypothesis.

Yeah I feel like Trump going off on Rob Reiner after he was stabbed to death by his own son was considerably worse

I'd wager I'm in the upper percentile of Mottizens for lifetime earnings due to a early startup lottery hit and in yhe vast majority of my jobs at larger corporations my function had a lot more to do with managerial largesse and posse-forming than anything resembling an output. Even if the title were somehow associated to something resembling productivity how the individual actually contributes in a larger business is pretty damned tenuous.

I'd argue that a lot of modern jobs in the Western service economy are just clustering awkwardly into makework on the side of vast surpluses that aren't necessarily reactive to extra peons. If the international competition was coming in for widget creation and Interational expertise could guarantee 6 widgets per hour instead of 5 for a domestic person, sure. The modern scenario seems a lot more along the lines of 'specious laptop job exists, foreigner is willing to do some combination of working for less/exaggerating qualifications more and little marginal benefit is derived by society.'

Your examples are all conspicuously physical realworld activities that can be tied easily to an actual output. In the real world, especially the sort of skilled professional laptop job reality that most Mottizens are living in, a lot of jobs are more sinecures for being on the right team/time and place than they are productive organisms. Handing those out to foreigners is literally insane behavior.

Exactly. It seems pretty implausible that the current medical hiring split is the one that's maximally recruiting those with the capability to be good medical professionals, especially when there's a ton of random carveouts for affirmative action identities

Overall there’s a neglect of the ‘what’s the alternative’ problem. Like yes working in a sweatshop sucks, but subsistence farmers try it and then beg the places to expand so they can get their friends and family on. The world is not naturally ‘nice’ and plenty of people can improve their lot by quite a lot with it still sucking.

This is essentially the issue with so much Western discourse where people assume that 'middle class person in a Western Democracy' is the natural water level for human existence since they don't have any real understanding of how shit the world is/was a country over or a century back.

Industrial Revolution is a series of processes that is widely copied and not a random windfall.

Exactly. Good for the emerging world peoples and tax-avoidant who've been able to take advantage of the Gulf States, but the whole thing is borne on essentially a massive oil lottery win and all the neighboring states sans oil are absolute messes. Being able to just buy luxury space communism for a tiny population (which isn't going to necessarily last and has already crumbled before) for 50-100 years is pretty piss poor in the terms of broader civilizational accomplishment.

Are we giving all the civilizational accomplishments of the Chinese to the Mongolians since they had whatever tenure as colonial overlords?

He does seem to be drinking the Techbro Abundance Kool Aid a bit too hard and I'm skeptical he's going to be successful longterm. I do agree with you that I'd rather 'Arabs spend a lot of money trying to actually build productive things even if too ambitious' to the 'Whores' or 'Wahabbism' alternate routes on the tech tree, though.

Brother the folks running Iran are not better. They also live off oil revenue and are degenerate.

Yeah but they've had periods where they've managed to genuinely better themselves and hold actual jobs and whatnot.

Are they? Egyptians are pretty separate to Arabs especially the vintage that made Egypt a big deal initially. That's like saying the Byzantines were Turks.

Broadly agreed. Iran atleast capable of putting together a solid situation whilst essentially everything South of there has nil chance outside of occasional massive petrochemical windfalls that they will inevitably squander in the longrun.

Yeah Persians are way more organized and productive than the vast majority of the region. Turks might be able to compete, and other groups just can't really do functional society in absence of massive Oil lottery wins.

Really? The US military kills lots of civilians in all prior wars, even up to the very end of the Afghan war they were accidentally hitting random people with suspicious tubes in their truck.

The conditions and scrutiny of most recent US military campaigns would be totally insane by any historical metric. 'You must only hit confirmed military targets in a hostile populace who have every incentive to deliberately misreport the status of casualties and have a bunch of weapons that can be profoundly lethal out of nowhere plus you have an aggressive media operation actively jumping on any excuse' is not a proposition that could really exist in any prior period.

Though, admittedly, my first quick search for a small-sized tightly-clustered student population didn't support my theory. Only 56% of Los Alamos High School seniors took any AP exams, and only 43% passed at least one? What the hell? Do the good nuclear physicists just not have enough kids?

Surely there'd be effects like the senior personnel having more resources for boarding school/private education whilst the shitkickers on base are just putting their kids into the local school regardless. Also I'd imagine there are some nearby actual Los Alamosans who'd likely skew redneck/native as hell.