BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
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BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
24d ago
It seems to me that feminists and red-pillers agree on most ground facts, e.g., men work longer hours and make more money. They simply disagree as to whether the facts are a bad or a good thing.
So no surprise that they should be in agreement about the facts on this topic.
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
24d ago
Studebaker.
Never had a strike, thought they had a great relationship with the workers, highest paid union workers in the industry.
Then times got tough in the early 60s as the Big Three started to squeeze out competitors, there was a Studebaker labor strike in ‘62 which blindsided the management who, again, had rolled over at every opportunity previously and seemed to be under the impression this merited some sort of loyalty. They continued to have labor conflicts throughout the 60s and the company was dead in ‘68.
There were other issues as well, few things are single-factor problems, but high labor costs were either the #1 problem or a major contributing factor.
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
25d ago
Agreed, Virginia probably will get redder as a bunch of deep blue government workers find greener pastures in other states (although that has knock-on effects depending on where these people wind up.)
But, where are you getting your thoughts on Minnesota? As great as it would be to have the land of our most “Uff da” saying people rejoin the Red fold, this seems like the reversed version of Blue Texas always being just around the corner.
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Sweet Sejenus
25d ago
Arguably, the manly dignity and self-reliance aspects were a side effect of feudal Europe, or at least an older, aristocratic way of thinking. The Founding Fathers were never interested in mass democracy. Excluding Paine, who was also ostracized in his own time, the closest you really get is Jefferson’s idea of every American man becoming a sort of natural aristocrat by being both yeoman farmers (landed gentry), and brave warriors (citizen militia).
The idea that a nation can even encourage manly dignity and self-reliance, while also validating and giving equal weight to the opinions of lowest common denominator dreck, seems revealed as not well founded in reality. Fulk Nerra, for example, had more of those laudable qualities than probably any American since Andy Jackson. And even Old Hickory probably lacked the cojones to burn Rachel at the stake for cucking him.
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
29d ago
Funnily enough, I think I misunderstood and thought you were talking about the Loomerite-Tuckerist wars going on in the right at the moment, as various factions spar for influence by threatening to take their rubber ducky and go home.
Hanania is definitely some kind of weird op effort, you’re right about that. He is also not the elite human capital he likes to see himself as.
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Sweet Sejenus
29d ago
and now they feel BETRAYED
Which is extremely low-T behavior and should be seen as embarrassing on the part of all involved. The best and most masculine, high-agency response is to continue taking power at the fastest rate possible and then take revenge once power is achieved.
Not to whine about it on the Internet and “take revenge” by willingly sacrificing all gains made so far.
Sad to see genuine reactionary potential throwing itself away. Many such cases, I guess.
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Sweet Sejenus
29d ago
Did you purposely intend to have that instinctively read in the voice of the Law & Order intro?
Pretty slick writing, if so.
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Sweet Sejenus
30d ago
Like the sorts of police who show up with a court order taking children away from parents who won’t trans them?
Are those the police you are referring to? Because that sounds coercive to me, at least.
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
Fascinating! I also had to memorize the Middle English Canterbury Tales prologue, and can still rattle off the first few lines. I always thought that was a unique quirk of my generally crazed junior-year English teacher.
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
I recall memorizing The Charge of the Light Brigade and The Destruction of Sennacherib as a yoof, and have had cause to pull out lines from each as the occasional pithy bon mot. I’m sure that if I had memorized more, I would have more pithy bon mots at exactly the right time, which does have a certain value socially. Even among Red-Tribe!
It does sound a bit cultish.
Why are there so many dads in the house? As a dad, I would have some significant concerns about being in a situation where my teenage daughter is living closely with other grown adult men, both for her soul and theirs.
Edit: If it helps, I would categorize myself as somewhat less normie than @George_E_Hale. But he also memorizes Shakespeare sonnets, which is noble and laudable but under no circumstances “normie” in the modern age, so now I’m starting to question his normie bonafides. 😀
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
Very good post. May we all return to a state where we understand that rights best go to the strong, that is, freedom of speech is best utilized and most valuable when used by those who would speak their mind anyways.
Also, this is partially a roundabout way of saying, glad to see you back, hope your break went well!
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
Plus you’re bringing back obnoxiously large hats, the loss of which is directly related to the decline of our civilization.
Make bicornes great again!
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
useless biomass
No strategic point in keeping it around, either.
A drone will never say “No,” or get PTSD from its memories of mass graves and executing mothers and children.
Might as well just slaughter everybody and let your people move into the freshly empty land. No risk of terrorism, no sullen populace yearning to break free of their chains.
Rather, I think, we will relegate to the dark ages that most foolish of words: Genocide.
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Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
Link is empty. What was the stunt photo?
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Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
I’m with you on schools being ineffective, but I think this is a side (possibly intended) effect of the last 70-80 years of school design.
School, like everything else, is effective when it is a challenge that can be meaningfully failed, when there are stakes attached to failure, and when there is a meaningful release valve, i.e., productive work for dropouts. It’s hard to say any of those three things apply to American schools in the 21st century.
In that regard, you’re right, American schools need a huge overhaul anyways, and trying to encourage physical fitness activities was already being consumed by leftism as far back as Kennedy. Any serious measures would probably fall flat on their face in the teeth of “just be kind” teacher resistance and “don’t get sued” admin resistance.
That being said…
As to having all the joy sucked out of physical activity, sorry, I say this as an obvious nerd of the sort who discovers and posts on the Motte, but not everything is supposed to be joyous. I still eat my vegetables as a middle-aged man, because it was joylessly ingrained in me by adults and is provably demonstrable in the real world that a healthy amount of vegetables is better for me than tubs of ice cream, or even my preferred all steak diet.
Physical activity is the same way. Maybe it’s just the “eating your vegetables of life” activity for the nerds, but I think “it won’t be hedonic” as an argument against something is an argument on weak footing.
Having done a lot of cycling over the years, including as a commute for many years in undisclosed European country, 1 in 5 cyclists are normal human beings, and the other 4 are CYCLISTS.
I have a theory that I derive from a great philosopher of our era, that in a contest between a weak and a strong horse, observers will naturally back the strong horse. However, caveat, in WEIRD society, there is also some sympathy for the weak horse, sometimes misplaced, but definitely there.
The horse that is really out of luck is the middle horse, and cyclists are the middle horse.
Motor vehicles are strong, confident, fast, going wherever they please with an inherent “Be wary of my power” statement accompanying them every where they go.
Pedestrians are frail and slow, but humanly so, and they have an inherent “Be cautious of my frailties, I am easily hurt” statement accompanying them wherever they go.
Cyclists are inhumanly fast, but also vehicularly slow. They can cause serious injury and possible death to a pedestrian, but are also prone to serious injury and death from vehicles. They are neither strong nor weak, but in the mushy middle.
This isn’t an insurmountable problem, until you run into the 4 out of 5 CYCLISTS who really, really want the rules written in such a way that they can push around and get mad at pedestrians in a way that even the strong horse motor vehicle users usually don’t want to treat pedestrians. While at the same time wanting to be treated as a weak horse that gets to both ride with the strong horses and be babied and given extra privileges like designated lanes, lane filtering, and bike boxes.
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
But in the previous comment’s context, they’re already being forced into activities and have limited agency, by virtue of being in high school.
Why is promoting a culture where physical fitness is an important aspect in any way less agentic or more forced than the situation where kids already have to be at school doing things adults tell them to do?
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Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
If great men are those who plant trees who will shade those long after they are gone, then the weak man consumes those fruits, and leaves the future to the harsh light of the unforgiving sun.
You’re right about this, but the problem is that the great man won’t look like democracy. Many “human rights” will be crushed out of existence on the way to resolving America’s fiscal problems.
This is, I think, the currently insurmountable mountain facing America. In order to resolve its problems, the great man will have to take the nation in hand, ignore a large proportion of the populace entirely, and take our present “leadership” behind the woodshed for a long time. That’s not happening anytime soon, because who’s going to be that great man?
Musk? Thiel? It won’t be a general or admiral, they’re all politicized non-entities these days. Maybe Hegseth, if he could be SecDef for 8 years and spend all that time ruthlessly purging the Pentagon until he had stacked the ranks with loyalists or ideological fellow travelers.
It’s sad, but I suspect America is on its way to experiencing its own Crisis of the Third Century, and someone with the vision and will to power of Diocletian is at least a couple of generations away.
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Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
Sorry man, but you taught your kid to respond to random violence with wisely targeted violence.
Unless you are operating on a very different definition of pacifism than I am, you are a bad pacifist, but if it’s any consolation, you are a good dad.
BreakerofHorsesandMen
Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
Who doesn’t value being young and attractive?
Confucian societies?
My read is that Aella’s problems are a combination of:
A: Pretend Patriachal Upbringing
I. Her father wants to fulfill his role as leader of the family. This social technology has basically been lost by the 80’s and 90’s, so he fills the gap with a untested hypothesis.
II. But he’s not actually the leader of the family, the government is, and deep down, everyone knows this. It’s why the image of the father subtly threatening his daughter’s garbage boyfriend is an image of hilarity in the modern era. Everyone knows Dad is completely emasculated.
III. He can try to raise her right (and be bad at it, possibly, but directionally correct.) Also, being blunt, he seems ignorant of certain commonsense items, such as paying to send his daughter to a college in line with his ideals, whether he thinks he’s the perfect daughter or not. Better to send your “troublesome” daughter to Pensacola Christian where she can meet a good man, than throw her to the world’s lions.
IV. But once she’s 18, at the latest, she is free to do anything she wants, and as a young attractive woman, in a world where women are wonderful, she discovers she can wrap a lot of people around her finger and potentially is naive to the fact that they may very much not have her best interests in mind.
B: Women are Human Beings
I. As was alluded to elsewhere in the thread, it’s not surprising that Aella wants to be valued primarily for her innate characteristics. She’s a woman, that’s par for the course. Hence the joke about battle writing in women’s fantasy novels vs. men’s fantasy novels.
II. Aella eventually and unsurprisingly discovered that her most marketable asset is her sexuality. This has been common knowledge, although not phrased that same way, for all of human history prior to the last 100 years or so.
III. As I previously mentioned, at this point no one in her family has any capability whatsoever to pull her back from the brink, either by force or by reason. For example, we would have much less of a drug problem if parents could bring their children of any age back into the family home, legally and by force, to separate the kid from the drugs. A good, or even mediocre, father is very likely to think the same way about his daughter and prostitution, but is in the same fashion stymied to prevent it.
IV. Aella, at the center of a number of failures and bad incentives, turns to sex work because then she doesn’t actually have to accomplish anything to earn her money, and can receive market value for her innate characteristics.
V. One of her innate characteristics is being an undeniably smart wordcel, so she is able to justify all this by making it sound cool and empowering, and she is in the Bay Area sphere where lots of excellent rationalizers both live and want to fuck her.
VI. *Et voila*, here we are talking about her.
To summarize, mostly I just feel bad for her. If she converts to traditionalist Catholicism in her 60’s, it won’t surprise me at all. I think she is papering over many terrible things with her mental firepower, eventually it will all catch up to her, it will turn out the money and the fame were fleeting, and she will turn that high IQ to higher things at last.
Additionally, as a father myself, I think fathers should be very aware of the very real limits placed on our ability to lead our families. I don’t know what the best solution is, but cosplaying as Abraham ain’t it. Be as unemasculated as possible, without going to jail, I guess.
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Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
You know what, I stand corrected.
I was under the impression that B. burgdorferi was the only Lyme disease causing bacteria. If that had been the case, I would stand by this as a failed replication, but with the new information, I think you are right.
Caveat for: All “Science!” seems prone to fakery in general, but I can’t see why anyone would fake these particular results, so it seems reasonable that I was wrong.
George Washington’s secret bioweapon program would still be dope, though.
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Sweet Sejenus
1mo ago
You could probably dial that back to a bioweapons program run by George Washington, because, shock and amazement, that study failed to replicate.
To confirm LMAT’s ability to analyze large (real) metagenomes and provide new biological insight, we downloaded the Tyrolean Iceman sequence data (Keller et al., 2012) from the SRA, which constituted 150 giga-bases of raw genomic data. While 78% of the sequenced reads were reported to be human, only a small percentage (0.84%) of the reads was reported to originate from bacteria based on a sample of 8 million reads. Our hypothesis was that LMAT could examine all the reads on a single large memory compute node and efficiently provide a more complete analysis of the microbial contents. For this application, the human genome (v19) was added to LMAT’s database to classify human and microbial reads simultaneously. The analysis on the raw 150 giga-base dataset (2.3 billion reads) ran in <20 h on our single node large memory computer (see Supplementary Material for additional details). LMAT output agreed with the published finding that the vast majority of bacteria were from the phylum Firmicutes and under the class of Clostridia. Similarly, only a small fraction of reads were reported to be from the Spirochaetes phylum. LMAT results did not show evidence for the presence for non-phage, non-retroviral viruses, fungi or protists after adjusting for previously unidentified human contamination in draft eukaryote genomes present in the LMAT reference database. The key observed difference was in the Borrelia species previously reported to be the first documented case of Lyme disease in humans. Although LMAT’s findings support the presence of the Borrelia genus with 16 180 reads assigned a read label score greater than 0, a more complex relationship is shown between the new Borrelia sequence and previously sequenced Borrelia genomes. Although Borrelia burgdorferi was previously reported to be the likely species present, LMAT shows that among the reads assigned to the Borrelia genus, the majority of the reads are assigned to non–species-specific genomic regions with species-specific reads assigned to several Borrelia species, including B.burgdorferi, Borrelia garinii and others. The Borellia reads were compared against all sequenced Borrelia genomes to compute an SNP-based genetic distance matrix. The phylogenetic tree given in Supplementary Figure S10 supports LMAT’s finding that the Borrelia variant is divergent from B.burgdorferi.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3753567/
A movie about George Washington’s secret bioweapons lab would be dope, though.
Did they die?
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