Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
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Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
14hr ago
Close, but you’re way off. I think I’d describe it more as “Will you please just shut up and stop getting in the way of my enjoyment”. Sex with a conscious partner is like trying to watch a movie with someone who’s always interrupting: “Ooh can we rewind I liked that bit”, “Volume up please!”, “Want some popcorn?”; and I’m like do you mind I’m trying to concentrate. Being obliged to consider someone else’s watching preferences takes me right out of the zone.
Now, in fairness, sometimes you really are more interested in the watch party bantz than the watching itself. But not often.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
14hr ago
but you know that fetishes by definition are outside the norm, right?
Well that’s begging the question isn’t it? We are trying to puzzle out who are really the minority, those who see the unconscious woman as a gross RealDoll vs those who still see her as person.
would you actually do it to a woman who hadn't consented?
No, sure, but your previous post wasn’t complaining about the absence of consent, it was complaining about the absence of consciousness.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
14hr ago
I did indeed mean that it was great for me and she didn’t remember it. However, she’s a self-proclaimed sub, and so while she didn’t remember the act, the abstract knowledge of it has an enduring appeal.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
2d ago
Although I think that if Weinstein or Epstein had been non-Jewish, the amount of mainstream attention would have been roughly the same. It's basically the fact that they are coded as elites, particularly white elites IMO.
I think the Jewishness means the Hard-Right pounds the drum harder, but if they were non-Jewish then the NGO-Left would pound the drum harder, so in the end it kinda balances out, yeah.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
2d ago
墨子 discusses punishments for rape during the Warring States period, and various annals including 春秋左傳 and 詩經 describe rape in a decidedly disapproving manner.
Yeah but they disapprove because it soils the man’s qi, in a ‘this practice is not consistent with obviating temporal desire and attaining the Dao’ sort of way. That a woman is involved at all, let alone an unwilling one, is of no consequence - they’d complain just as much about a long goon session.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
2d ago
The two parts of your statement do not logically synch up. If you don’t consider it an improvement, then you don’t see the appeal, because, by your own logic, it is not appealing (compared to the default).
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
2d ago
To me, having sex with an unconscious woman would have pretty much zero appeal no matter how hot she is
I am a man who happens to have this fetish, and indeed I am a man who related this fetish to my gf, she thought it was hot, and we contrived some bs about our apartment being too close to a busy highway in order to get a doctor to prescribe heavy-duty sleeping pills that we could indulge this fetish. And it was great.
It’s the “doing another guy’s wife” and “doing a fugly old grandma” that confuses me about the appeal. Not the unconsciousness, which, indeed, is a distinct improvement over the vanilla sex act.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
2d ago
This.
I notice that legacy media occasionally tries to push the story but there’s basically no social media take-up by anyone reading the news, because it gets (rightly) understood as categorised in a box of “Shit French people do”, not “Shit men do”.
You are basing this statement on what evidence?
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