HughCaulk
8mo ago
Yeah true we should just round up every brown person in sight. Easily doable, you got me here!
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Other counties legally have migrant farm worker visas like Aus and Canada. We don’t have this system in lieu of “illegal” immigrant work. You’d need to set up a similar system here and transition all these workers to it, otherwise food will be rotting on the vine in California
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Well if a huge portion of ag labor is from illegal immigrants, perhaps we shouldn’t be so hasty in deporting them. Most of us still, uh, need to eat every day.
Issue is that other Anglo ex-colonies have legal migrant farm worker visas, like Aus and Canada. It’s called “wuffing”. While we don’t have that at all, we just had an unspoken agreement that you let in some amount of illegal workers to fill the massive need of agriculture help come harvest time in California and other states. Effectively it does the same thing
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Also, this is such a “be careful what you wish for” sort of thing.
Conservatives are now pushing for random passport/citizenship spot checks as you’re walking down the street, that’s what “freedom” and america means to you?
Don’t have immediate proof of citizenship, get detained? Who cares if you have an American accent, we can never be too sure and that can be faked. Russian spies go through strict accent training and speak just like you and I.
“If you’ve got nothing to hide, you got nothing to fear” lmao
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Yeah this is definitely a culture war issue. I just feel like being excessively harsh on illegal immigration is punching down. Do you feel intense competition for jobs or homes from illegal immigrants? If you do, then it makes sense to be wary about more immigration.
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Name sounds the same, same people are screaming and crying about it… seems like Trump and DOGE are right on target with these.
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Well her kids are US citizens if they were born here. We aren’t some barbaric European country!
Yeah you get paid for cheating the system. Welcome to America! Seems like you’ve got a lot to learn.
HughCaulk
8mo ago
There were over 10M illegal immigrants under Biden, so that would need ~4k daily deportations for the entire presidency to undo. Seems unlikely/impossible to happen.
Unfortunately it’s a lot easier to let people in than kick them out.
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Yeah I just don’t think these petty deportations are good politics though. There are 10+M immigrants under Biden, and we are selectively going to deport the criminals (good) or the well known ones in their community? Doesn’t seem wise.
Next Dem president likely to let 20M in next round, at this rate…
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Well it’s unlikely these people can pay a fine. They often do menial labor tasks for below minimum wage (main reason you hire undocumented labor in the first place)
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Most of these organizations are CIA fronts and sponsor regime changes and some really shady shit. USAID sponsored Operation Phoenix which murdered, assassinated and brutally tortured Vietnamese civilians, and tried to pin these acts on the Viet Cong to turn villagers against the north Vietnamese.
“International development agency” riiiiight…
If these agencies don’t want to get shut down, and actually do legitimate humanitarian projects, then why get mixed up in things like the above? These organizations routinely do evil things and are not run by good people.
HughCaulk
8mo ago
100% this
Private organization clearly does not mean what I think it means if you are funded wholly from public funds. “Independent” lol, how can I get one of these organizations for myself?
HughCaulk
8mo ago
Yeah that’s awful. A reasonable compromise here would be giving people who’ve been here for a certain amount of time amnesty and a green card. Hard to support this
HughCaulk
9mo ago
Security guarantees are how we got WWII and likely how we will get WWIII. You basically outsource your decision making power to wage war to foreign states, that’s idiotic. Especially when the foreign state is (was) regarded as the most corrupt westernized state in the world (Ukraine).
I also wouldn’t support EU nuke program. It will lead to major proliferation of nuclear bombs when the EU inevitably breaks up; now all the random countries in that union get a few bombs each? Yikes…
HughCaulk
9mo ago
Sure, but at least states have competition. If some state has bad policy, people will leave to a better managed one. I strongly believe in competition and some sort of free market here, where bad states fail, good ones succeed and grow, and then regimes will change and improve in bad states.
Not even about social security, what about all this immoral shit that the government does, or corporations use government to do? Like regime changes, war mongering (and how fucking profitable war is), immunity for vaccine manufacturers, all this is shady as fuck and the right seems bent on tearing it down and stopping left-wing grifts. When the left gets in power, I’d love to see them reveal and tear down right wing grifts (there are many) and after a few cycles of this, government is dramatically smaller, less grifty, and more moral.
HughCaulk
9mo ago
Obviously not 100% of people will be convinced but this does a lot to discredit the legitimacy and even constitutionality of our current government. If the government is only legit when progressives win, well it’s not legit about half the time. So you’re halfway there.
To correct for this, some will want to rig elections so that their side can’t lose. Well doesn’t that make it even less legit for everyone else?
Finally, there are other forms of government or organization that are not extremely top-down federal level OR full corporatocracy. State, local level? The Federal level is fucked and a money grab, we can all see this.
HughCaulk
9mo ago
Great post. As someone that leans more libertarian, it does seem like government programs do more harm than good, especially w.r.t. second order effects and longer term unintended consequences (ie: nanny and welfare state slowly destroying the family unit, esp in poorer communities).
So yes, Musk, Trump et al. acting brash, irrational, and abusing power might be a great thing, if it reduces the government loving progressive caucus’ trust in the whole apparatus.
HughCaulk
9mo ago
Yeah these Trump hysteria takes are so weird and just discredits the left and Trump opposition.
There are obvious negatives to deploying large amts of troops to the border and in southern states. But let’s debate that, not immediate jump to him suspending elections?
Its so dumb and you just push people away from supporting your side when you’re inevitably wrong, again
HughCaulk
9mo ago
Canada seems to have a much more reasonable immigration policy. Generally it’s based on a points system right? And in BC it’s a lot of high skilled Chinese and other Asian workers who bring a lot of money and investment. Vancouver looks nicer than any American city. Sure there are some drugged out homeless but we are talking about a west coast city here…
UK seems in a death spiral. Punishing taxes, industry hollowed out, and not sure what their obsession is with Muslim immigrants but I hope the transition from their old demographics to the new is at least peaceful.
Another major issue with the UK is the serious brain drain to the US. Any smart or high achieving Brit leaves for the states. Likely all the (mildly) conservative ones too. So you get a socialist hell hole with vanishing middle class jobs
HughCaulk
9mo ago
I mean it’s literally true that most European countries don’t have much of a military or military equipment manufacturing, no? Europe is grand standing that they are going to keep this Ukraine stalemate “war” going, but lack the equipment and soldiers necessary to do so (as Ukraine seems to just be running out of men).
Is the truth insulting? Then perhaps European countries should spend less on welfare and more on their militaries (as they are obligated to do under NATO). If they aren’t willing to do that, then give up on Ukraine and make a peace deal.
HughCaulk
9mo ago
Seems like he took office with the goal of ending the war (something his supporters loved on the campaign trail). And he’s willing to turn some screws to get this deal done. Doesn’t really seem impulsive, since he talked about ending this crazy war for the last year.
Crazy how Trump is compared by libs to Hitler, meanwhile he’s already ended the Gaza thing, and likely to get his way here and end this horribly destructive war shortly.
Real question is: how much have American weapons companies and Ukrainian oligarchs profited off this war already?
It’s not a good idea because some industries like Ag are completely dependent on this “illegal” labor. If you could snap your fingers tomorrow and instantly deport them all, you’re going to have food shortages and food rotting on the vine in California.
Trust me, I’d rather have a few more Mexican neighbors than have food shortages!
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