Jazzhands
9d ago
For reference, the average hive supposedly has about 30,000 bees. Enough to fill half a five-gallon bucket.
Jazzhands
12d ago
It was only 4 years ago. That's hardly an eternity. Is there some evidence he has seen the errors of his ways?
Here's what you actually said
Nit: when did our definition of socialism become so drowned-down? Is anything that's not free (free-as-in-captured) market capitalism now considered socialism? The only "means of production" that Mamdani is suggesting be owned publicly are a few grocery stores, no? That's hardly a "seizure" of means.
Implication is that it's somehow unfair for people to be identifying this guy as a socialist. Given that he has called himself a socialist and he addressed a significant group dedicated to socialism where he quoted approvingly from the Communist Manifesto, seems like they got it right. At the very least, the burden of evidence is on the side that wants to claim he's seen the error of his ways.
If some people were able to determine this just from his campaign rhetoric, all the better for them! They made a correct prediction! The evidence is that their definition of socialism is accurate, not "drowned-down." You should be asking why you weren't able to see it was obvious to them.
Jazzhands
12d ago
To be clear, you think it is unfair to apply the label "socialist" to a guy who spoke at the Democratic Socialists of America about the "end goal of seizing the means of production"?
Jazzhands
12d ago
He was a speaker at the DSA, which stands for "Democratic Socialists of America."
Clip here: https://x.com/Osint613/status/1939657700553486380 Actual Quotes:
- "The purpose is about this entire project, it’s not simply to raise class consciousness, but to win socialism"
- "We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism"
- "There are also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it’s BDS or whether it’s the end goal of seizing the means of production"
Full long video at https://youtube.com/live/9K7HDuoJ0MQ
Jazzhands
18d ago
The conflict between various Muslim states and Israel (which, really, is what we're talking about when talking about "Muslims and Jews" here, since there's only one Jewish state)
Because Muslims treat the Jews within Muslim states so well, right?
Jazzhands
25d ago
Then he's not mentioned again in the New Testament where he's this unseen dark mirror of Jesus.
What?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%204%3A1-11&version=NKJV
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”
7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not [a]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”
8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Jesus said to him, [b]“Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”
11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.
Jazzhands
26d ago
It's also pretty similar to Jefferson's Deism. It's an old heresy that recurs regularly throughout history. In the past few centuries it pretty consistently tries to sell itself with language like "compatible with a scientific mindset." Check out Bishop Spong (of the famously growing Episcopal church) for a relatively recent iteration of this.
Jazzhands
1mo ago
I don't think we can rule out that Shapiro looked at the odds and turned them down, deciding he was better off trying in a later cycle.
Jazzhands
1mo ago
The Abundance Dems aren't even real. Let us know when they pass anything of substance in a blue city; until then it's pure marketing.
Jazzhands
1mo ago
What, does the recent repeal of Roe v. Wade not count?
No. The Red-equivalent of RvW would be for abortion to be banned in all states for the next 50 years. Putting an end to Blue imposition of their values on everyone is not the same.
Jazzhands
1mo ago
Raccoon-dogs aren't even that special when it comes to being covid-susceptible. For a while blaming pangolins was all the rage!
Jazzhands
1mo ago
"The Population Bomb" was published in 1968, and was very much a leftist phenomenon. At no point did the failure of its predictions hurt his prospects with Stanford where he continued to teach. Anti-natalism has always been pretty closely tied to the Environmental movement, and this is in turn a big part of why the Right has ceased to trust environmentalists. It was a probably a big influence behind India's sterilization campaign, under its socialist government. The One-Child Policy was implemented by literal Communists.
Basically, anti-natalism has been a left-wing thing longer then most of us have been alive, and implemented by the left in some of the largest countries in the world.
What's the right-wing equivalent? I think you're over-indexing on a few outliers and twitter edgelords.
Jazzhands
1mo ago
The entirely of the Testimonium Flavium, as we have it today:
Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct to this day.
That's not "diverged greatly," that's just short.
Jazzhands
2mo ago
There's been a weird narrative push here lately to blame Christianity for the worst parts of leftism (see the similar "akshally Communism comes from Christianity" upthread).
You know the expression "Fascism is always descending upon America, but landing in Europe"? Same deal here. SJWs and Communists have been consistently and outspokenly opposed to Christianity. When you see a Christian organization turning to such left-wing activism, you can usually safely bet they are also on the off-ramp from being Christian.
Atheism is a critical ingredient.
Jazzhands
2mo ago
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2027%3A6-8&version=NIV
Now I will give all your countries into the hands of my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; I will make even the wild animals subject to him. All nations will serve him and his son and his grandson until the time for his land comes; then many nations and great kings will subjugate him. If, however, any nation or kingdom will not serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon or bow its neck under his yoke, I will punish that nation with the sword, famine and plague, declares the Lord, until I destroy it by his hand.
I would simply remember Syria Libya. Why did the Democrats who had run against regime change in the Middle East decide to bomb them back to hell again? What was accomplished besides the reopening of slave markets? They didn't even bother selling it to the public, they just did it.
"We came, we saw, he died" was the main sober analysis offered by the administration at the time.
Jazzhands
2mo ago
Ok, sure, if you redefine "social conservativism" to mean the opposite of how everybody uses it.
Jazzhands
2mo ago
Are you under the impression that kids these days have grown up under a socially conservative system?
Jazzhands
3mo ago
Don Draper: Arranged marriages, but arranged by a computer instead of parents who love you.
Jazzhands
3mo ago
90% of the OP is about the current state of Republican epistemology, not the Left. And yet this subthread seems to be determined to prove the very intro it is complaining about.
Jazzhands
3mo ago
Depends how much you really believe in the wisdom of the crowd. If you can combine that with a general understanding that the epistemic status of any given tweet is very low, you might indeed be able to glean useful information, based on how wide a given piece of information has spread and for how long.
For example, the JFK files were just released. I ain't readin' any of that. But I am confident that if there's anything interesting in there, Twitter will surface it to me over the course of the next week. And if it's all a dud, it will surface that, too.
Jazzhands
3mo ago
Yeah, everything has trade-offs, and it's too early to say if this approach will actually be better than the previous one.
Jazzhands
3mo ago
It was a Left bubble, but now it's not. Left-wing Twitter needed to keep banning and suppressing stories they didn't like; right-wing twitter just out-tweets them.
So far right-wing twitter hasn't been used as much for cancellation (although arguably LibsOfTikTok does this); the targets are usually left-wing institutions.
I would not bet on that pivot yet. I think Mamdani's success shows that the days of progressive mismanagement have come to a middle at best.
(Although I guess he could still lose.)
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