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I would not bet on that pivot yet. I think Mamdani's success shows that the days of progressive mismanagement have come to a middle at best.

(Although I guess he could still lose.)

For reference, the average hive supposedly has about 30,000 bees. Enough to fill half a five-gallon bucket.

It was only 4 years ago. That's hardly an eternity. Is there some evidence he has seen the errors of his ways?

Here's what you actually said

Nit: when did our definition of socialism become so drowned-down? Is anything that's not free (free-as-in-captured) market capitalism now considered socialism? The only "means of production" that Mamdani is suggesting be owned publicly are a few grocery stores, no? That's hardly a "seizure" of means.

Implication is that it's somehow unfair for people to be identifying this guy as a socialist. Given that he has called himself a socialist and he addressed a significant group dedicated to socialism where he quoted approvingly from the Communist Manifesto, seems like they got it right. At the very least, the burden of evidence is on the side that wants to claim he's seen the error of his ways.

If some people were able to determine this just from his campaign rhetoric, all the better for them! They made a correct prediction! The evidence is that their definition of socialism is accurate, not "drowned-down." You should be asking why you weren't able to see it was obvious to them.

To be clear, you think it is unfair to apply the label "socialist" to a guy who spoke at the Democratic Socialists of America about the "end goal of seizing the means of production"?

He was a speaker at the DSA, which stands for "Democratic Socialists of America."

Clip here: https://x.com/Osint613/status/1939657700553486380 Actual Quotes:

  • "The purpose is about this entire project, it’s not simply to raise class consciousness, but to win socialism"
  • "We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism"
  • "There are also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it’s BDS or whether it’s the end goal of seizing the means of production"

Full long video at https://youtube.com/live/9K7HDuoJ0MQ

The conflict between various Muslim states and Israel (which, really, is what we're talking about when talking about "Muslims and Jews" here, since there's only one Jewish state)

Because Muslims treat the Jews within Muslim states so well, right?

Then he's not mentioned again in the New Testament where he's this unseen dark mirror of Jesus.

What?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%204%3A1-11&version=NKJV

Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”

5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:

‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’

and,

‘In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not [a]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”

8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Jesus said to him, [b]“Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

It's also pretty similar to Jefferson's Deism. It's an old heresy that recurs regularly throughout history. In the past few centuries it pretty consistently tries to sell itself with language like "compatible with a scientific mindset." Check out Bishop Spong (of the famously growing Episcopal church) for a relatively recent iteration of this.