JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
Formerly "SandwichWarrior" and "The Upright Man", may or may not be feral, is most certainly quixotic.
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No it does not rely on conflation of those things.
It relies on the supposition that evil things are always evil, and that good things are always good. But like others here, you are so steeped in left-wing anti-western propaganda that you do not even see it.
Furthermore removing and replacing an approximate third of the US (never mind the world) population would quickly make "the whole killing 6 million Jews bit" look like rookie numbers.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
I agree with your general framing but would expand point 1. to the managerial/laptop class more generally, and suggest that much of derangement and consternation surrounding the Aesthetics of Trump and MAGA is driven by status anxiety stemming from the appearance of the working class pushing their own interests.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
It's an open-and-shut case, until a DC jury pool declines to convict, but we'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
I can't tell if this is an exceptionally well crafted troll effort or yet another exhibit of just how broken and toxically effeminate the culture of the liberal striver class has become. The warnings in CS Lewis' Abolition of Man reframed as imperatives. Forget making "men without chests" what we really need to do is make no men at all!
It'd be funny if there wasn't a vocal population who seem to genuinely think like this.
Surely there is something wrong with this argument but what is it? It seems fine from an purely utalitarian perspective.
This where the absence of luminaries like DavidFriedman, BarnabyCajones, Ame_Damnee, Et Al are most sorely felt. As one of their rants on different moral systems, reframing of sin as virtue, or the pernicious evils of utilitarian thinking is what this thread really needs.
From a purely utilitarian perspective Nazi medical experimentation on live prisoners was an unalloyed good as they greatly expanded our understanding of phenomena like Shock and Hypothermia. This understanding has, without doubt, saved many more lives than those experiments consumed. Now you can take this one of too ways, as an argument in favor Nazi style death camps. or as an argument against Utilitarianism. I take it as the latter. To me, utilitarianism looks like a philosophy that was specifically designed for the purpose of allowing high-functioning sociopaths to justify and excuse horrible behavior.
That definition is far too simplistic.
I am also told that that the gender binary of "male" and "female" is "lacks nuance" and is "too simplistic".
Are they though?
While the American Kennel Club may disapprove, In my experience coydogs are treated as just another type of dog.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
The actual science of separating species is (as most biologists will say) almost completely arbitrary.
This is a false statement propagated by the same class of people who have difficulty answering the question "what is a woman?"
The word "species" has a clear and commonly understood definition. If two individuals are capable of interbreeding and the offspring produced are themselves reproductively viable then those two individuals are of the same species.
You asked me why I label your thinking as anti-western and then you post this?
From my perspective every statement you just made only reinforces @MonkeyWithAMachinegun's thesis.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
Is Dresden not in the South?
Because to the degree that what we call "Western Civilization" has a core axiom, a common thread that binds Marcus Aurelius to Mark Manson, St Francis of Assisi to Frank Herbert, it is the idea is that Sin and Virtue are real and vital forces active in the world and that these forces are shaped by each of our individual decisions.
It is the spring from which ideas like "Meritocracy", "Objectivity", and "Rationality" well, and I do not believe that you can stray far from it and still reasonably call yourself "Western".
Statements like "What good is sober introspection and self doubt, how does that rally people to a cause and an identity?" are the statements of someone who has embraced a third-world mode of thinking, the sort of pernicious influence that CS Lewis urged us to guard against in The Abolition of Man
We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.
It is steep and slippery slope from asking "what good is X, if it doesn't benefit me personally?" to being a mere "animal".
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
With his life history this dude does not appear to have a great reason to throw himself away for the Cause-- as a sexless loser or a trans depressive might. This should be a normal guy. Stay out of the muck, protect your minds, people.
My take away was a bit bleaker than yours. It seems to me that that support for political violence is an increasingly main-stream position amongst affluent liberals, and there is really only one way that game ends.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
You are aware that for most of the Cold War "East Germany" was a separate country are you not?
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
I'm trying to square the idea of wanting a set of people removed being "so vague as to be meaningless" with you being German.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
I have never claimed that Charlie Kirk was anything like "the last beacon of hope" or whatever. What I have consistently said is that his killing and the responses to his being killed that I observed from ostensibly "moderate" and "main-stream" Democrats was a radicalizing moment.
Yes it can be useful politically, especially in the short term, but it is not "adaptive".
It is a fundamentally anti-western and "third-worldist" mode of thinking that that inevitably leads to the sort defect-defect equilibrium that is responsible for much of the death and misery that "the third-world" is known for.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
Apologies if I have you confused with someone else but my recollection is that you are (or were) bit of a "tanky" from east Germany, is that correct?
I am going to vote in favor of their removal, for a start
How many times do I have to tell you that the enemies of civilization must be opposed, and that I don't want them in my country?
Again, I don't really care about your risk assessments or what you might find distasteful. I have a moral responsibility.
Yes, most futures are liquidated before delivery and settled in cash, but if you chose not to go that route they would be contractually obliged to hand over the orange juice. That is what "a future" is. A contract to purchase a product at a set price some time in the future.
Furthermore the statement that "There is no 'house' in prediction markets" is a lie told to you by the same people who want you to "invest" in prediction markets. When you buy "shares" of an "event" in Polymarket or Kalshi who holds the money? Polymarket and Kalshi hold the money. They are "the House", and if you don't think that the people who own Polymarket and Kalshi are trying to get rich then I have a bridge in London to sell you.
Again, I do not believe that prediction markets are true markets in the "market economy" of the term, and I think that people who can't see past labels to the underlying mechanics are the people who get rationalists get compared to Quokkas. It is everything like scratch tickets except without the social opprobrium, but I expect that to come with time.
and again I don't really care about risk assessments or what others might find distasteful. The enemies of civilization must be opposed, and as such I don't want them in my country.
I think futures contracts are a fundamentally different thing from "gambling" as at the end of the day you still get the orange juice.
As I have argued previously prediction markets aren't really "markets" in the "market economy" sense of the word so much as Casinos cosplaying as markets. "Investing" in a predication market is functionally the same thing as "investing" in scratchers tickets. You've given the house your money in exchange for nothing beyond the possibility that they might choose to share share a portion the money that they've taken off others with you, and the house is always going to win because otherwise how are they supposed to stay in business.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
Indeed,
For my part I continue to maintain that it is not only morally and logically incoherent, but economically irresponsible to treat prediction markets any differently from how we would treat betting on a horse race or a ball game.
If that is sincerely your position, then I am going to once again echo our Vice President by saying I don't really care, I don't want these people in my country.
From my perspective you are attempting to draw a distinction without a difference. It is my opinion that if your reaction to 10/7 was celebratory, you are not just an enemy of Jews or of Israel, but of Civilization, and as such I have a moral responsibility to oppose you.
JeSuisCharlie
Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk
6mo ago
But your proffered litmus test for them is inaccurate.
Just to be absolutely clear. You are saying that...
"Do you celebrate when hear about (or see footage of) Israeli citizens getting raped or murdered?"
...is an "inaccurate" litmus test?
I would argue that yes, it does matter. and that the failure to police bad actors is often one of the most visible manifestations of "toxic femininity". See Theodore Dalrymple's the rush from Judgment.
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