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Some times Charlie was in the trees.


				

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JeSuisCharlie

Sumner, Hebdo, Kirk

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Some times Charlie was in the trees.


					

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As a fan of The Critical Drinker and a bit of a "YouTube tirader" myself, you have a point.

Are movies still a thing post 2020?

Not only cannon, but privately owned warships were an entire thing.

The difficulty with 2A is that a straightforward reading is not really compatible with a stable modern society.

I see this claim thrown around as obviously true on a regular basis but I don't think it really stands up to scrutiny. Something about an armed society being a polite society.

How are you defining "stable" and "modern" in this context? Do New York and California count? Do Texas and Florida not?

The topic being explored here is: If the bad guys in Taken were coded brown, would it be the same movie? Obviously not.

I do not think it's obvious at all, nor do I agree with the claim that "Taken does not code against foreigners".

Likewise I don't buy the claim that "when a white takes revenge on the brown outsider, it sticks out like a sore thumb". Maybe in a German movie, but in the US Black gang-bangers and South American drug cartels exist as stock villains right alongside Nazis, Communists, and Arabs.

Again, I haven't seen Citizen Vigilante but I think your framing reveals more about you and how you view the world than it does the movie. You being a German would explain a lot.

Its the typical Democrat, "our violence is speech, your speech is violence" juxtaposition. January 6th was "an insurrection" that warranted a wide-reaching crack-down on anyone even tangentially involved, but getting together with your friends to shoot at cops and commit a bit of light arson is just all in good fun.

What are the material properties of these "rights" you refer to?

What does it mean for something to be "inalienable" within a materialist framework?

The belief in rights as something distinct and inalienable, rather than something that is bestowed (and can thus be revoked) by the state was an observably conservative/illiberal notion in Lewis' day and i think it has only become more so with time.

As anyone with small children will tell you, you get more of of what you tolerate.

If you tolerate the distribution and possession of child porn you are going to get more child porn. You may claim that you do not endorse it's production, but you will be the person enabling and encouraging it.

Perhaps, but I'm skeptical.

I understood them as saying...

It's an interesting affirmation that everyone understands and acts on racist phenomena.

in response to...

It sounds like a pretty straightforward remake of Taken.

...which suggests that they see Taken (and by extension the other movies I mentioned) as "an interesting affirmation that everyone understands and acts on racist phenomena". Too which I replied "this attitude says more about you than it does the movie"

As with @hanikrummihundursvin, I think the fact that your mind goes immediately to the race angle rather than the "daddy needs to step in and handle things" angle reveals more about you than it does the movies in question.

It's an interesting affirmation that everyone understands and acts on racist phenomena.

I haven't seen Citizen Vigilante but in regards to Taken I would say that this attitude says more about you than it does the movie.

"formal authorities are uncaring/ineffectual/complicit and it falls upon a square-jawed father figure to step in and correct the obvious injustice" is practically a genre unto itself. Death Wish, True Grit, John Wick, Dirty Harry, Die Hard, and The Equalizer all immediately spring to mind. Guys like Liam Neeson, Clint Eastwood, Denzel Washington, and Jason Statham have built entire careers around playing this sort of role.

Okay, but what if the terms actually are materialist?

Then "value" is defined solely in terms of blood and treasure.

If the terms are actually materialist, then competition IS war and there is nothing further to discuss.

The motives for war are largely orthogonal to how it is fought.

Your desire to paint everything in purely materialist terms is simply another example of how the liberal mindset seeks to undermine and destroy traditional Western notions of virtue.

Did "the West" betray young men or did "the liberal striver class"?

...and can "the liberal striver class" be described as "betraying" young men if were not first allied?

Liberalism has been at war with masculinity for a close to century now, CS Lewis wrote an entire treatise on the subject 83 years ago.

The application of the Greer/Freeman model to the last decade is that the GOP went MAGA as a result of grassroots Republicans voting in primaries, whereas the Dems went woke-prog as a result of the machinations of the Groups. I think this is obviously correct.

This is the opposite of your previously stated thesis. Are you trying to "Duck Season/Rabbit Season" me?

Yes, I am aware that the illustration is just an illustration. You're missing the point.

As horrified as Oppenheimer may have been by the prospect of nuclear annihilation he was also largely responsible for making it a possibility. As @Quantumfreakonomics says, he could have followed Isidor Rabi's example, but he didn't.

Oppenheimer was an Autist in that he seems to have lacked a basic understanding of social dynamics and game theory, that is why he was shocked and appalled when circumstances deviated from his preconceptions and that is why Truman was right to tell him off. A more "neurotypical" individual would have understood that you don't hand a person leverage if you don't want that leverage to be used.

If you think "human flourishing" is "a dodge" why not just embrace wire-heading and pump the entire population full of opioids?

The formal organization of both main US parties is almost exactly the same

Formally? perhaps. In practice? Not at all.

Greer and Freeman are trying to model the GOP from the perspective of outside observers, and their models fail because they have failed to grasp the simple fact that constituent interest groups of the GOP are not "an alternative power base" so much as they ARE the power base.

If formal leadership even mattered even half as much as Greer and Freeman suggest Trump would've never been the nominee, and "your take" reads as you naively believing liberal propaganda from 10 years ago. Sure, perhaps if you were to ask Jeb Bush and Liz Cheney they might characterize themselves as "America's natural ruling elite" but that's also why they are now on the outside looking in.

Formal leadership tried to fight the constituents and formal leadership lost, Decisively.

Don't act like you wouldn't build the Torment Nexus form the classic Sci-Fi novel Don't Create the Torment Nexus if given the opportunity. This is why the OP is telling Anthropic (and the rest of the CFAR/MIRI crowd) that they need to rewatch Oppenheimer. Specifically the last two bullet points in mind.

Because sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

A good friend of mine from college ended up doing thier did grad work at SAIL and then going on to write a good bit of DALL-E's original codebase. To this day they insist that to the extent that "AI" is dangerous that danger comes not from some foom scenario but from Silicon Valley being populated by autists and sociopaths with Altman specifically called out as one of the latter.

Trump controls the party, not the other way round.

This is just dumb. No one "controls the party" unlike the Democrats the GOP is explicitly organized as a coalition of otherwise sovereign entities rather than a top-down organization.

Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes are both far more likely to find a home in a Democrat controlled administration than a Republican one.

(who themselves are after all only part Indian, many are much lighter skinned than the average actual Indian)

It's sad that I need to keep pointing this out, but again it's not about skin-color it's about whether you present as belonging/being a member of the culture.