Karpal
12d ago
This is a completely rational and a smart way to think and a completely rational and smart thing to say anywhere in the world except in a forum where we agree to deal with each other's arguments as stated and not the nefarious motives we imagine behind the arguments.
Karpal
1mo ago
Red, green and blue mars are pretty lefty and very good. Maybe not modern left enough, but having (at least three) main characters rant uninterrupted about the evils of capitalism for several pages should count.
Karpal
3mo ago
My two cents is that this forum isn't really the place for disparaging misspellings of opponents' arguments (da joos, freeze peach, da menz etc), but I've reported it a few times and nothing has come of it, so I guess the mod-team disagree. That's fair.
Karpal
4mo ago
It would only be a temporary solution, one that works for a world with ai that is as good or slightly better than we have now, it doesn't work in a world where ai does everything better and cheaper than humans because our three days of effort is a valueless as our five days. No one really knows when we'll end up there, but I haven't heard a convincing argument for it being impossible and it might be years rather than lifetimes away.
I also don't think Ubi can be anything other than a temporary solution. Money has no value of its own, it represents created value. In a world in which humans don't create any value, why would the robots or robot-owning class want to exchange the real things they made for 'money' that's given out freely to everyone? What can they do with it? They can't buy anything that the humans produce because humans don't produce anything. They can only exchange it for things of robot-created value, which they already have.
Karpal
4mo ago
She didn't, or at least she only killed the witchking in the same sense that aragorn threw down the black gate or Frodo threw the ring into orodruin.
Karpal
7mo ago
That's pretty accurate. I thought the culture war angle was about the streaming 'chats'. Raja had already accepted the wrestler's apology for his mistake (he thought raja was part of the show) but may have been goaded into his murderous rage by the people following his stream (he was still streaming/reading 'chats' while the show went on) who had no interest in the wellbeing of anyone involved and just wanted to see drama /get a reaction. I don't think race was a major factor at all.
Karpal
10mo ago
For me (and I think I'm not unusual amongst older guys) it has a negative effect on my physical fitness.
It's enough of a pleasure that the risk of injury and the physical wear-and-tear is something I'm happy to mitigate by lifting and calisthenics (which I don't enjoy). The cardio benefits that were amazing when I started have diminished since I got good enough to be lazy and injury adverse enough to avoid going all out.
I love it, it's a mental escape at the end of a day and it's an attractively simple social group, but there are less destructive activities that I might have developed a taste for.
It's not preserving 'the original biological machinery in the original way' that is important, it may be about preserving a process that entails subjective experience.
It feels intuitive to me that the processes of certain kinds of systems feel like something from the perspective of the system and some don't. A purely indexical system (like a thermostat or an optimised 'follow the instructions of the earing' system) seems like the second type. Systems that intuitively don't seem like they'd have subjective experience.
I can't think of any way to test this, but it feels right that for a system to have subjective experience, or would have to:
These are true for a person making decisions in life. They aren't true for an optimised 'follow the instructions of the earing' system no matter how accurately the instructions achieve the person's own original goals. I like that greg Egan short too, but I don't think the earing and the 'jewel' are the same because the jewel learns to copy the process of the person's thought, the earing (probably) doesn't.
Just a feeling.
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