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				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 29, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I don’t think that gives them much of an out. Other sections of the CCC address these groups pretty unambiguously.


Protestants:




818 “... the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers.... All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.”






819 “... Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him, and are in themselves calls to “Catholic unity.”




Jews:




839 When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People, “to whom the Lord our God spoke first.” The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews “belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ”, “for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.”




Muslims:




841 “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day.”




Now, I’m sympathetic to the tradcaths on this point (though they’re usually so loathsome, it makes it difficult to have sympathy for them at all), in that Rome didn’t always have such an inclusive attitude, so they have plenty of prior writings to point to that make the opposite claims. But those are just the sort of problems you have to put up with when your church changes its doctrine while pretending both that it hasn’t and that it can’t.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 29, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I have had multiple tradcaths tell me that Muslims, Jews, and Protestants cannot be saved (“there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church”), let alone adherents of non-Abrahamic religions. Many also support the death penalty, don’t like government welfare, oppose immigration, oppose religious freedom, oppose separation of church and state, and hold several other positions that don’t fit comfortably with modern Roman Catholic teachings.