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We have pretty clearly initiated the beginning of the end of the US some years ago, arguably with the election of Trump in 2016.

There have been worse presidents than Trump, by and large our institutions have held against his efforts to get around them. He'll be gone in a little over two and a half years. No successor to him has been really able to gain any kind of traction to his cult of personality. The US is able to handle the bumpy road of a bad presidency, SCOTUS court packing is a different animal as there is no foreseeable end it to.

this is pretty clearly the plan, at least arguably on both sides

If it was the plan on the right, they'd court pack now, but they haven't - they won't even kill the filibuster for the SAVE act. I'd suggest both sides want to win, but that is different than locking the other out of power through court packing, killing the filibuster, adding US states, etc.

We have been in worse culture war situations than now. Cooler heads must prevail.

When you begin packing the court, the constitution becomes useless - as it only matters what SCOTUS says it does. Fundamental rights could oscillate as quickly as every four years, that is not an environment for a stable society. The last time court packing happened was right after the civil war - I'd suggest that is where it should stay.

Packing the court is likely to happen soon in any case.

I don't see how a court packing does not signal the beginning of the end of the US - much like if Pence would have tried to appoint Trump president during the electors issue.

The Dems would have to lock out the Reps from power for at least a generation or face a retaliatory court pack the second the Reps return to power - and then we repeat the cycle until we all get bored of the 51% beating the 49% with sticks.

Each side packing the court each time they get power - SCOTUS rulings become meaningless. We become increasingly banana republic like.

Maybe I am dooming too hard though at the prospect?