Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
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Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
18d ago
The angle is "These people are cutting my job - theyre just like the Nazis".
For posterity, grandparent said:
EDIT: and as you can see from the responses below, it seems that some prominent posters here seem to think that this is a good thing? Do you understand now why I would pick the woke?
in response to this.
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
18d ago
As I said, literally just the screenshot, in a context where its understood that youre supposed to "look at this lefty".
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
18d ago
I think a screenshot of this comment without context would do very well as a LibsOfTikTok-style righty meme. Can you guess why?
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
19d ago
people are usually more frugal with their own money.
Sure. The pressure you talked about initially sounded more like a hard deadline approaching, but of course money isnt free.
Point taken about the "key enablers", though I couldnt say how important they are. Yemen for example seems to have been more of a problem for the rest of the world, without US involvement it either wouldnt be a problem, or else the US would deal with it for its own reasons.
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
19d ago
The first point of argument is whether these definitions are reasonable and deserve the good connotations that "meritocracy" and "individualism" have.
While formulations similar to yours are often endorsed, theyre not usually understood to work in the absolute way that you use them. For example, imprisoning anyone with a job for reasons unrelated to that job violates your meritocracy, but its generally thought that society has a compelling interest in imprisoning people anyway. Birthright citizenship violates your individualism. In fact, Im not sure there is anything short of granting citizenship to everyone whatsoever, that complies with both individualism and international law against creating stateless people. The absence of a 100% inheritance tax might violate both, depending on whether you consider bestowing inheritance a "judgement", or investment a "position of influence". Clearly, committing to this kind of absolute interpretation puts you into an extreme fringe position. This is especially strange combined with your claimed instrumental justification for these principles - those are usually quite open to compromise.
Now, maybe youll bite those bullets because thats just the true liberalism, but that really changes the conversation. I also dont think throwing your lot in with the wokes is the obvious response there. By those exalted standards, theyre barely different. You would be deciding based on ultra-low probability scenarios where your ideas gain any noticeable influence, and its hard to say where those are better.
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
19d ago
Im not talking about a US thats opposed to Israel. They still give them weapons (and steel/chemicals/whatever), just expecting payment. Im also not necessarily talking about short-term buying, thats why it matters things are signaled in advance, so they can make their own stockpile if thats important.
GDP and dollar figures aren't the right way to look at military production.
The GDP stuff is about the political aspect of the spending. Is there something left from the objection after that? Are NK rockets cheaper to make than youd expect based on quality and local labour costs?
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
20d ago
I dont think Ive particularly seen that messaging, and Im genuinely asking. Obviously Ukraine isnt like that, but Israel generally seems more diplomatically than materially limited. Looking things up now, Israels military spending was about 5% of GDP in previous years, up to 9% last year. US aid was approximately(second chart) at 1%, increased to 3% last year (and presumably continuing for the current conflict). Probably those numbers dont include everything, but thats far from "obviously impossible" territory. North Korea is quite a bit higher than that, and you can see in the first link that Israel was there previously. For another comparsion, support for the former east german states seems to have been around 5% of west german GDP in the initial years.
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
20d ago
America and to a lesser extent Britain are enabling Israeli strategic incoherence, providing air cover.
If such aid was not given and this was signaled well in advance, do you still think they would need to wrap up quickly, or could they just have spent more on military and gotten the same result?
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
20d ago
Manner Wafferl are dangerous indeed. Im not sure the average cops waistline can take it.
I think its more so a matter of charity. The idea is not that youre literally saying this, but that a motivation is shining through. Of course we here, who have reading comprehension or media literacy or whatever it is, know that youre right about everything and only interpret you in that light.
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