Skibboleth
It's never 4D Chess
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Skibboleth
It's never 4D Chess
1hr ago
The ability to control your impulses is a crucial element of participating in society. If the desire and prospect of getting laid causes you to throw out discernment or consideration for other human beings, you are one of the people who make the police necessary.
Do you think the human race must be non horny?
I think it would be a better world if we had fewer people who thought that being horny was some kind of excuse.
Skibboleth
It's never 4D Chess
3hr ago
Do they just not know? Do they think this behavior is incompatible with also being intelligent, educated, and highly-paid? Do they think it's just too hard?
It's hard to speak in universals, but:
a) many are simply not acculturated to this particular set of norms. "Ladylike" behavior is, mostly, normative framework for a particular subset of upper middle class, and the groups most likely to promulgate this values set have started rebelling against it for other reasons.
b) many feel the whole ideal of the "lady" is an imposition that makes it women's responsibility to manage men's sexual aggression and entitlement - part of a broader view in which women are expected to remain in a defensive crouch at all times lest they be victimized by men (and quite possibly blamed for it as well after the fact).
Skibboleth
It's never 4D Chess
3hr ago
But if group sex happens, as one might predict, and she's not screaming no and is not unconscious, should the men in the situation specifically be locked in a cage?
Yes.
Look, I don't know what actually happened here. But as a general statement, I think the more extreme/unusual a sexual encounter is (especially if it involves strangers), the more incumbent it is on you to make sure that everything is above board. If someone says there's a gangbang in the guest bedroom and you uncritically dive right in, you've got the spirit of a rapist if not the legal status.
No, I think if a woman showed up and did the same thing, they should go prison all the same. It is deeply unfortunate that sexually predatory behavior from women is treated even more lightly than the same behavior from men. It is just less common.
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