Sloot
6d ago
Sounds like Paige Harden.
WOULD, btdubs.
Sloot
10d ago
Then again, non-parents (especially non-parent women) are somehow even more risk/human-dignity averse when it comes to other people's children (which is why the education system is the way that it is), so maybe it'd still be an improvement.
Non-parent women can be quite risk tolerant when it comes to other people’s children for social engineering experiments in the interests of being decent people on the right side of history. Risk-seeking, even.
Out of the four combinations of parent/non-parent and men/women, non-parent women are the most ardent supporters with regard to minor LGBT+ exposure and subjecting Asian/white children to more “diverse” schooling. Other people’s children, by definition.
That's nuclear-grade propaganda right there. If I was a Ukrainian man I would want to burn the world right now.
The thought of getting sent by my government to be shot at and bombed while my countrywomen teehee and scamper away to fuck foreign men is some combination of massively infuriating, degrading, and demoralizing.
If I were Russian military leadership, I’d emphasize such points on social media for (young) Ukrainian men.
Airdropping on mobile (if that’s still a thing) and blasting on TikTok, Snapchat, Insta, VK and whatnot reels of seemingly limitless young Ukrainian women offering themselves up on dating apps/sites in Europe. Some bit about fighting for (magic) dirt and concrete while your (would-be) girlfriends and wives have already ditched you to do who-knows-what in Europe. Offer Russian citizenship to Ukrainian military men in exhange for surrender, no ‘gotcha’ clauses or hard feelings (and make good on that).
Sloot
10d ago
I don't see this working for Ukraine, absent a teleporting device that can be deployed accurately en masse from distance.
A baby boom would need young women for which to enable the baby booming. And young Ukrainian women are in Europe living their best Tinder lives and riding the carousel.
It's just so over for the life prospects of (young) Ukrainian men in so many ways, especially romantically.
It's no secret that women love men in uniform
When in war-time, the men in uniform need to win first, at least temporarily (see: French women with German soldiers in WWII). At the minimum: not die. The latter is not guaranteed, much less the former.
Sloot
15d ago
Or how #StopAsianHate saw a meteoric rise when the implicit or explicit blame was cast upon white men, but then got memory-holed when too many inconvenient videos surfaced that those predominantly responsible for acts of Asian hatred were black.
Question: The part about Indian men being the least attractive of the human species kinda stung. I wonder how much of all of this content with filth is just nth-order rollover from arranged marriages being a thing.
It's not some fundamental law of the universe that Indian men must be on the bottom of the totem pole.
Being the mimetic sex, a lot of what women find attractive or are willing to give a shot is socially mediated. If not for (the) Western media, entertainment, academia, and education system putting their thumbs on the scale, East and South Asian men would do materially better (and black men materially worse). Solving such a problem does, however, indeed sound coup-complete.
There's even a not-so-clever-but-somehow-still-hilarious neologism in the crimethink-sphere espoused by sexually unsuccessful black, South Asian, and East Asian males alike: Just be White (JBW). One that gets "yes_chad.jpg"'d by sexually successful and unsuccessful men all around.
Online women often shriek and fingerwag at South and East Asian men for supposed "entitlement" when it comes to white women, or supposed "entitlement" when it comes to not "losing" "their" women to white men ("you're not entitled to white women," "you're not entitled to women of your ‘race’").
However, black men are typically spared such well-poisoning and condescension. "You fucking donkey" vs. "there, there, princess" along the lines of the Gordon Ramsay meme.
Sloot
20d ago
A nice secondary or tertiary benefit about spending time in a LatAm country is experiencing the relative lack of pro-black and pro-latin(x) (ironically enough) propaganda, and relative lack of anti-white and anti-Asian propaganda. It’s a breath of fresh air.
Which then should make us disgusted that the woman who caused it received attention and pity after the event.
There's certainly a vibe of "women have always been the primary victims of their boyfriends'/husbands' suicides."
However, it's not exactly rocket science to avoid wifeing-up promiscuous women, say... single mothers, women who'll suck and fuck male teenagers and adults on your tab, women who will cuck you to your face and ask what's up, as in Bourdain's case.
Bourdain should had known better than to get oneitis and treat a hoe as a wife.
Sloot
24d ago
Pretty much. “Teach men not to rape” is less consistent with a general principled stance on victim-blaming and more consistent with the usual Who? Whom? and efforts to maximize female freedom and minimize female accountability.
Hence why “teach men not to rape” is A Thing, but “teach men not to murder” sounds farcical and “teach black men not to murder” would be considered hateful and offensive by many.
Those who shriek against “victim-blaming” when it comes to advising women to be responsible for their own safety are disproportionately likely to immediately suggest that a victim of black-on-white or black-on-Asian violence said or did something to provoke the attack, a victim of pitbull-on-pretty-much-anything-not-a-pitbull nannying did something to trigger the pibbie’s reactivity (such as making a sudden movement, making a loud noise, or breathing).
They may also advise to leave your car windows and trunk open when you leave it as a good faith signal to Persons of Burglary that you have nothing to steal, and if you don’t it’s your own fault that your windows got smashed.
Perhaps.
Indeed, historically and prehistorically-speaking, a daughter would be more likely to give you at least one grandchild compared to a son. However, a son can potentially give you many, such that the median/average is a wash, with maybe the average tilting in favor of a son (depending on who you are).
Especially in modern-times, there’s no guarantee a whoredaughter will provide more grandchildren than a failson, despite the dick and creampies she’s taken.
A failson might even provide more grandchildren than a success-son. A failson who spent his 20s as a bartender, leaving three children with some combination of babies’ mommas. Or a failson who, as a school teacher, married a former student in her late teens or early 20s, and they went on to have three or more children.
Versus a success-son, who Was a Decent Person and adhered faithfully to a PMC girl he met in undergrad, graduate school, or at work, after she had accumulated some miles under her belt. They get married in their late 20s to mid 30s, where they might eventually eke out a child or two with everyone’s fingers crossed. Zero children is a material possibility.
Another reason why having mutiple children is clutch, to diversify your offspring outcomes (and potential heartbreaks, whether it be failsons or whoredaughters).
Nothing, really.
But it makes women feel less Wonderful, less of Strong Independent #BossBabes, the thought that they’re but passive objects, NPCs or lootboxes, for which men can strategize or play the numbers game.
Courtship and romance, from the view of women generally, should be something that just happens like a magical act of God.
Sloot
29d ago
Paying $80,000 a year to send a girl off to college to do drugs and fuck hundreds of guys might be the most degrading thing in the world.
Yet a deci- or centi- amount of that much dick is a common experience for college daughters while their fathers foot the bill.
$80K a year would be consistent with Sam Hyde’s estimate of $250K all-in for sending a daughter through art school, especially given inflation since then.
I’d personally rather have a failson. Maybe at some point he’ll find some ambition and turn his life in a better direction.
If a daughter’s gone whore, there’s no putting the toothpaste back in tube. The dicks she’s sucked and taken aren’t going to unsuck and untake themselves. It reminds me of a possibly apocryphal recount of the aftermath of a chick posing nude for Playboy, that her family went on with life as if she were dead.
In the Wang example, your beautiful little girl having a mixture of vomit and semen, and possibly urine and ass juices, rubbed on her face while she asks for more will forever be seared in your brain (until your death) and forever available in thousands of minds and hard-drives of people out there.
I don’t know about preventability, although I feel like I’ve thought about it and then forgot or kicked it out of my memory for cope reasons. I probably have more control over a son not being a failson than a daughter being a whore; there are substantial cultural pressures that encourage a daughter to be a whore, or at least a thot.
If she lived in a house on its own, then do your own thing, but when you're living in community with other people, if you're going to worry about ethical implications, then you have to worry about the effects of your actions on others who have not consented to be infested with bloody moths.
If Moth Lives Matter, then moths enriching the rest of your community is a feature, not a… bug.
More moths proliferating means greater happiness in the world. Your neighbors should feel good and wholesome from having been blessed with the opportunity to be decent persons and allies in hosting moths, which would also increase the world’s net-happiness.
EDIT: Fucking hell, and pardon the swearing but this is my immediate reaction. What kind of person happily ignores insect larvae in their living space?
My living quarters having more than an occasional insect appearance would sound like hell to me.
Much less than a situation where insects and their larvae are omnipresent. This now sounds like a SAW movie torture room. If moths, why not bed bugs, mice then rats?
There’s fitness and then there’s fitness.
I agree there’s a likely correlation between male SES and fitness-when-it-comes-to-lack-of-obesity in Western countries, but the correlation between right-wingedness and fitness-when-it-comes-to-aesthetics can be on a similar magnitude or even higher, especially when holding some confounders equal.
Weight-lifting and belief in sexual dimorphism is highly right-coded, and male aesthetics fitness lore heavily invokes sexual dimorphism: Wide and capped delts, portruding traps, thick and wide back, strong chest and arms, relatively thin waist.
Grab a random guy from a gym who has less than 15% BF and can bench-press >1.5x his weight. Is he more likely to be right- or left-leaning relative to a randomly selected peer of similar geography, age, education-level?
The modal “in-shape” guy among the PMC, who does some running, cycling, or squash when he doesn’t have a Dorsia res conflict, maybe some light weighting from time to time, is still a DYEL and/or perhaps skinny-fat compared to what might be considered aesthetic.
Eventually, my boyfriend and I decided we couldn’t carry on like this.
This was my favorite part of the article, that she just casually and suddenly mentioned that she had a boyfriend who was suffering alongside her Effective Altruism all the while.
The things heterosexual men will put up with for sexual access.
But yeah, it’s not necessarily all EA specific. OOP reminds me a lot of young and not-so-young women I’ve known socially and professionally. The first to make a song and dance (“omg eww!”) when an insect appears, but also most insistent that someone (not her) deal with it or the greater building-dwelling insect population in a gentle and humane way. At least OOP owned up to much of the task, albeit in her own peculiar manner.
Sloot
1mo ago
Eh, don’t think so.
It’s more consistent with general female hybristophilia.
Middle class suburban American cat ladies, who code white, being into serial killers is a “man-bites-dog” story in comparison to the “dog-bites-man” story of black American women being into thugs (as Will and Jada Smith might tell you) or latinas (whether born in the US or Latin America) being into cartel members or their derivatives.
Putting a “white” in front of “women” is oftentimes a way to Notice things about women without getting Canceled. After all, white women are among the white people of women, non-Asian minorities, and the LGBTQ+.
Just-worldliness and presumed agency (of say, an advisor and advisee) are two key dimensions to differentiate between blue, red, and blackpill in a general sense. Dating/relationships are perhaps the central/archetypal example, but it’s hardly limited to dating/relationships.
The bluepill presumes a just-worldliness in contrast to the red and black pills; the red pill generally presumes a degree of hyperagency in opposition to the blue and blackpills.
Stereotypically:
Bluepill: The world is just. Be a decent person, read the room, try your best, and it’ll all work out.
Redpill: The world is not just. But here are some One Weird Tricks by which you can reshape (and even exploit) the world to your liking.
Blackpill: The world is not just and there’s nothing you can do about it, other than eating shit.
Sloot
1mo ago
Yeah, men (sons) have the burden of performance. Women (daughters) cannot fail; they can only be failed.
Just existing can be enough for a daughter to retain her father's love, not so much for a son: "Sons are expected to have agency, force of will, ambition. They fail... For Tony Soprano, Bobby Bacala, Johnny Sacs: their girls are their princesses. Forever. Even as they grow up and go to college or get married — they’re daddy’s little girl. If they do something career focused, it’s window dressing or status points... But nevertheless [sons are] expected to win. Daughters are not. Daughters are only there to be loved."
Sure, there are some failure conditions that would apply to both sons and daughters (e.g., becoming a street junkie), and some of the most devastating ways a parental heart can be broken is by way of a daughter to her father, but the general set of failure conditions for a son is much larger than those for a daughter. If you're an M&A Managing Director at an investment bank, your son who became a school teacher is a failson. Your daughter who became a school teacher is just a daughter. Failson is much more of a thing than faildaughter, just as #GirlPower is much more of a thing than #GuyPower, #GirlBoss more of a thing than #GuyBoss.
This reminds me of @Folamh3's comment from a few months ago, although I would add a woman/daughter being pleasant, agreeable, talkative, and amiable can be optional in such circumstances:
I always took this ["women are loved for who they are, men are loved for what they can provide"] to mean that a woman is loved for her intrinsic traits (of which beauty may be one, but doesn't have to be), whereas love for men is conditional on their being productive members of society. I don't just mean "love" in a romantic sense, but also platonic and familial sense. This is difficult to express and back up with hard data, but I do think it's generally much more socially acceptable for the average woman to e.g. take a "sabbatical" or "career break", move back in with her parents and not work for several months, than it would be for a man to do the same. We have a hundred derisive terms for adult men who live with their parents and stubbornly refuse to find a real job and get their shit together ("NEET", "basement dweller", "hikikomori", arguably "incel"), but the reflexive assumption is that a woman who lives with her parents and refuses to get her shit together must be "going through some stuff" or suffering from some nebulous undefined "trauma". Consider also that there's no distaff counterpart to terms like "deadbeat dad", "prodigal son" or "failson". Generally speaking, a woman who is pleasant, agreeable, talkative and amiable, but who's moved back in with her parents, hasn't worked for six months and isn't actively looking for a job is "figuring herself out"; a man who does the same is an embarrassment to the family. I don't think the situation is fundamentally different if the woman is overweight and unattractive. This, I think, is what the "woman are loved for who they are" concept is getting at.
The phenomenon I'm describing isn't just a negative one (romantic, platonic and familial love being extended to women in spite of what they refuse to do - their "sins" of omission) but also positive (their loved ones extending them love and charity in spite of what they have done). It's variously called the "women are wonderful" effect or "hypoagency" or whatever, but my general impression is that whenever a woman does something bad (including criminal offences) people will scramble to find someone or something to blame other than her. I'm racking my brains trying to think of a time I read about a woman on trial for a criminal offense and her crime wasn't attributed to self-defense/justified retribution, "mental health issues", or manipulation by a (male, obviously) third party
So this is my interpretation of "women are loved for who they are": women tend to be loved and respected by their families, friends and romantic partners more or less unconditionally. Crimes of omission, derelictions of duty and shortcomings will be ignored; crimes of commission will be forgiven, excused or explained away. "Pretty privilege" factors into this but is by no means dispositive (e.g. there are no "plus-size men").
On the other hand, perhaps thinking women are just as capable as men is a paradigm which doesn't explain present gender relations. But thinking women as being akin to people with disability does. A person in a wheelchair or a person with blindness are given the same rights as a person with working legs and eyes, but also some on top. Like the ADA which demands resources be expended for the sole benefit of the disabled.
I've seen a few times in the crime-think-sphere a partially joking suggestion in various forms, to mount a campaign to call out misogyny or "misogyny" as a form of ableism under social justice discourse.
But yeah, a lot of this is the usual "women most affected" kind of thing. For example, women have always been the primary victims of male expendability as @RenOS described below.
It may or may not be your fault, but it sounds like the feedback from your manager and coworkers is fairly negative. From your employer's perspective, it probably doesn't matter much whether it's your "fault" or not.
At the very least this is a misalignment in terms of the role and expectations, and/or a bad cultural fit—or perhaps, they're just awful and shitty colleagues, and you should find a way out. To me, personally, your manager and coworkers come across as snakes.
It wouldn't be the end of the world, but I would advise against quitting without something firm lined-up. Jobs are like women; it's always easier to get another one if you have one already. Recruiters don't want a candidate who isn't wanted by other recruiters.
You have to do what's best for your mental health, though. If you have to quit for your own mental sanity, so be it. But maybe you can tough it out for a while at the job. You can always quietly coast/quit while searching for the next venture on your current company's dime, which would better position you financially and professionally. If you get officially put on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP): treat it as a Paid Interview Process, as the saying goes. You could also use that as a springboard for negotiating a separation agreement.
It’s disgusting that the rich get richer each year while leaving 50% of people below median in wealth.
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