SpringFish
19d ago
It was a rhetorical question. Nothing has been willingly reversed or retreated from where the cultural power of the left is still intact. The only things where some reversal may have happened (but mostly just a reversal of the first derivative) is stuff under government control under Trump. I don't see anything else. Where Trump isn't president, e.g. in Western Europe, woke is still on the upswing.
I want them to cite concrete things that they now see as having been crazy. "X said Y in 2021 and it was all over the NYT, and on Twitter and everyone was nodding along, but actually now I realize it was crazy." And don't take some edge case lunatic, but the central cases of what people understand under woke that was everywhere. They never do that. They just say "oh yeah actually things went a bit too far, great intentions, but it was a bit over the top here and there, teehee I guess it was a wild time, quite crazy..." That's weak. If they think something was crazy they should say what precisely. And then let's see them say that into the face of social media. Because I'm pretty sure that nothing of substance has been rethought. It's just that "I guess we were too fast and it turns out we have to be more strategic about this because not as many were onboard as it seemed online, especially during the covid lockdown when all we had was online, so social media seemed representative." Was it crazy to rename master to main, blacklist to blocklist? Which cancellations and witchhunts were actually crazy? Was it crazy to insist on capitalizing Black, but not white? We'll never know. "Some mistakes were made". Which ones? (What I listed are obviously the surface presentations of much deeper assumptions, which certainly haven't been rethought, so even just removing the frivolous annoying useless stuff like the Orwellian language redesign won't address the core issues. The true reversal would be around a re-evaluation of the oppressor-oppressed axes and the woke interpretation of history, gender relations, race relations, the eternal crimes of cishet white men etc.)
How did we go from "there is no such thing as 'woke', it's just a conservative invention, there is only basic human decency" to "Woke 1" (who even invented this term? First time I'm hearing it) having been bad. Presumably implying there is "Woke 2" in the making which will be non-crazy.
Also as just one example: has Wikipedia been un-woked? If woke has been defeated?
Not extraordinary, but certainly within the upper half of the distribution, and likely significantly.
https://www.c64-wiki.de/images/b/b4/BillGates1980.jpg https://youtube.com/watch?v=zZrgVG2k8vU&t=158
Good jaw, okay charisma. You have to subtract out the goofy 80s clothing and haircut that makes him look too much like a Bad Luck Brian loser. Look at the face itself. Again, not a model, but not below average for sure, by a good margin.
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