TwiceHuman
1d ago
Asking here because I don't have the time to effort-post enough to post in the main thread.
Does anyone know of manifestos or books with worldviews and principles which have weight to them? Most I can find is half-assed disinterested knowledge. There's too much beating around the bush, self-censorship and conforming. I did enjoyed reading Ted's manifesto and "Setting the record straight". Max Stirner's takes and Julius Evola's books are good too. I don't care which ideology people believe in, it's just nice seeing somebody actually believe in something. And lets be honest, fragile beliefs are mediocre.
Alternatively, share any strong beliefs of your own, some of you must be tired of walking on egg-shells by now. I'll start:
All the suffering you'll ever experience does not add up to much of a big deal. Only the lack of meaningful experiences is a problem. The focus on reducing bad things rather than causing good things is a symptom of illness.
Most modern "sexualities" are mere fetishism and trauma responses. Also, 98% of modern psychologists are utterly incompetent and most common psych knowledge is wrong. Is nobody else concerned that even art styles are getting domestication syndrome?
In-group favorism, gatekeeping, discrimination and all the like is all based, as long as none of it is done "in bad taste". Corruption, manipulation, finding loopholes and other such indirect, cunning, malicious and exploitative mindsets is done by those who lack the strength to compete fairly, making them inferior. Also, no favoritism, support or bias requires malice onto the excluded in the first place. Society has a habit of making the worst examples of things out to be the standard (which is also why it demonizes the ego)
Every culture should be respected and left to do its own thing. If the culture turns out well, then it cannot be called immoral. If it does not turn out well, then foreign aid and other attempts to save it would be immoral.
All virtue is costly and one must have abundance in order to be a good person without destroying themselves, and it's a sad to see good people destroy themselves.
Trans-humanists are better described as anti-humanists. If you love something then you don't seek to escape it or to change it into something else. Video-game modding sometimes makes games better with 'more of the same' and I find this to be acceptable (hence my username).
You can't have the good without the bad, and if you reduce one you reduce both. Taken to an extreme, the desire to decrease the bad leads to nihilism or a preference for non-existence. (Buddhism and statements like 'the only moral action is to destroy the universe'). Even psychological defense mechanisms which protect against pain tend to do so in ways which reduce the good parts of life (inaction, detachment, avoidance, etc).
Most conscious interference with the goal of improving something will end in failure, and Chesterton's fence is not the full explanation. Perhaps you can sometimes aid something without attempting to control it, and lessen the chances of failure. But as a general rule, just let things go their way and they will solve themselves.
TwiceHuman
11d ago
High trust is fairly natural when people live in the same place for many years or even multiple generations, and when the population density is low enough that people can keep track of one another and remember their actions. Also when you have concepts like "honor", and everyone has lots of children resulting in large families. If you think back to the past, it makes sense. Even if you could get rich by scamming those around you, the results wouldn't be good.
Things looks different now. We're still tearing down Chesterton's fences today and calling it "progress", while claiming that the remaining fences are what's causing all the problems we're seeing, and I'm afraid we'll keep doing this until we live in a dystopian world, and that the vast majority still won't be able to wrap their head around what went wrong.
I'd call high-trust "Good faith" or "Investing into ones local environment, rather than exploiting ones local environment", a sort of presumption of alignment. Psychology plays a role too, when people treat me as if I'm a kind person, that makes me want to be more kind. Which reminds me, everything is probably made worse by modern media
TwiceHuman
20d ago
The theorists I remember do mention weather manipulation, but their main criticism is that they're spraying toxic chemicals. That the trails which come after planes aren't just regular water vapor, but some kind of chemical, and that these lines covering the sky used to go away faster when they were young. When these conspiracies were booming, you could frequently see the sky almost covered by contrails, which doesn't seem to happen much anymore. There's fewer lines now, and they disappear more quickly.
the Muhammad boy you know
It wasn't a muslim, it was an European who had read the Quran and concluded that muslims migrating to Europe were doing so in order to take it over. That they'd prioritize their religion over our culture and laws. That they'd exploit our good-will. And the prediction was pretty spot on
It absolutely matters how correct you are
Do you know of zero popular beliefs which are trivially wrong? Do you really need an investigation to tell that the vast majority of the best scientists the world has seen are men? Do you need an investigation to recognize that men are generally stronger than women? That A person from Sweden is quite a lot smarter than a person from Africa? That third-world immigrants engage in about 10 times more violent crime than natives?
All you need to know that the current world is completely crazy is a memory of the past. "Sticks and stones may break my bones" is a children's rhyme. We used to teach literal children not to be offended by words, and now we're arresting adults because other adults cannot handle their words. It's pathetic, and every person who knows anything about mental development should be able to see it at a glance. But as universities are far-left, these so-called experts construct a blind-spot against this observation. Neither Education nor Science defend against stupid beliefs, so why would an investigation? Here's the fully sourced chronological story of GamerGate. How many knows it exist? What difference did it make?
People get used to whatever is the case currently, and then they consider it "normal". This proves that the common perception of the world is relative rather than absolute. In other words, if society had entirely different beliefs, then the consensus of scientists would "investigate" and find those beliefs to be true. None of it is rooted in any objective reality, as people largely don't care about objective reality.
TwiceHuman
20d ago
They use the same feminine tactics, e.g. victim mentality. They're also over-represented in important universities (which now have a strong left-wing bias) and of course, they're big on banking, and the entire financial system is basically one big scam, which has been rather obvious for over 150 years now
But yes, politics in general is rather awful, and most people who make politics a big part of their life are awful.
Anti-semitism is becoming more common and this is a direct consequence of jewish actions, but I think it only adds legitimacy to their victim complex (which may be the goal). At this rate, they might not have to spray paint swastikas on their own synagogues anymore!
Holocaust denial is becoming illegal in more and more countries, even though such a law is in conflict with fundamental human rights. It's easier to get away with criticizing white men than jews (they're less protected), so jews are still in a stronger position. Don't merely judge the strength of a group by how much of a "minority" they are, those who are actually oppressed are never recognized as such
TwiceHuman
20d ago
That's like saying "Not all gay people are promiscuous". A tendency is bad enough.
I think more than 50% of classic conspiracies have come true. Many of the ridiculus counter-examples you're probably aware of were never real theories, but rather satire meant to mock conspiracies. They probably did get "vaccines cause autism" wrong, though. "Q anon" and "flat earth" are also trivially wrong. The chemtrail claims come from geo-engineering, which do occur, and they do add chlorine to tap water. Jews also do inflate numbers in order to victimize themselves further.
I was once told that a great way to humble oneself was to attempt to predict the future. If your world model isn't accurate, your predictions will be way off. Yet many of these "crazy" conspiracy theorist correctly predicted many of the issues which are currently happening. Instead of preventing these developments, people mocked them or claimed that they weren't happening. How many loops do we need? It didn't even take a genius to know that Muslims wouldn't respect western culture, the first person who told me that would happen was about 12 years old.
You're making this out to be about cognitive biases and false positives in thinking, but I think it has nothing to do with that. The reason people don't believe in conspiracy theories is because they've been branded "low social status", so you'll have as much success explaining them as you'll have explaining that being sexually attracted to 16-year-olds isn't unnatural nor pedophilia. It doesn't matter how correct you are. It also doesn't matter how incorrect people are when they say that HBD isn't real, or that mass-immigration is beneficial. Ideologues have a lot in common with religious people
TwiceHuman
21d ago
You've never seen those Twitter posts of jews shit-talking white people, identifying as white when and only when they can derive an advantage from it? I've show you a picture, but for some reason I can't find them on Google. Do you know how annoying it is to dig up any information which has a slight right-wing bias? Every search engine will actively work against you. I will find examples if you really want to see them, though.
Also, old conspiracy theories always mention the jews.
By now, you should have learned that most conspiracy theories were true. Here's some older theories (pre-2000):
Some people are trying to destroy gender and make society uni-sex.
Women are tricked into believing that they should be career-oriented rather than family-oriented. That they should be independent.
The elites are looking into population-control and depopulation programs.
A group that Conspiracy theorists call "the illuminati" wants a one-world-government (Anew world order).
Christianity and Christian values are under attack (this used to be blamed on satanists, freemasonists, and communists, but does it matter what we call those behind it?)
That Homosexuality is pathological and correlates with most forms of sexual deviancy (like pedophilia).
That muslims won't integrate into the western society, but merely lay low until they make up a good chunk of the population, only to then promote their own religious values aggressively while being intolerant of ours.
Most of the conspiracies that I saw on the internet as a child, most of which I doubted were true, are currently unfolding. So why would I not give these skizos of old the benefit of doubt about jews? They were right about basically everything else. Also, many of these issues are old, they all go back to the 50s if not earlier. Even transsexualism is old. For instance, look into Magnus Hirschfeld - an Ashkenazi Jew and sexologist who promoted LGBTQ doing the Weimar Republic.
Personally, I dislike jews because so many of them are dishonest. Ben Shapiro for instance, disgust me. And can you blame people for being angry that "America first" turned into "Israel first"?
Where do you think anti-white thought originate? It is at the very least strongly supported by the media, and there's a lot of jews working for the media.
I agree with basically everything here, but my deduction is different.
There's strong signs that it's jews who are in charge of all this. Whoever is doing this is clearly powerful. The woke clearly hate everything they can relate to the holocaust, to the point that their hatred of nationalism led to an almost global consensus that borders are immoral. Whoever is behind this is also trying to destroy Christianity and its traditions. A lot of people who have warned against jews historically have been assassinated (e.g. JFK). The woke is also driven by the media - and jews are extremely over-represented in the media. If you've been on 4chan, you've seen the image I have in mind right now. It also happens that jews aren't at home in America, and they're therefore in a position in which they can harm America without harming themselves. Only globalists and those without strong roots can benefit from causing this much harm.
I've never been on 4chan, but even I know that a lot of users predicted our current events, warning that the jews would do these things. And historically, these issues have also been blamed on freemasons, FBI/NSA/CIA/GCHQ, "the system", satanism, feminism, communism, the illuminati, NWO, globalism and on elite families tied to banking (Goldman Sachs, the Rothschild family, Rockefellers, etc), and many other groups, and most of these claims aren't wrong, the question is just which group is in charge, if any.
While there might be some non-organic anti-semitism, the jews could be spreading that in order to legitimize their victimhood. And Trump said "America first", only to start sending billions of tax-dollars to Israel. Of course this results in a spike in anti-semitism, anything else would be strange. The reason that even Reddit has some anti-semitism is likely because jews overplayed their hand.
You know a lot of things, so you should have a clear picture, and yet you discard the most likely conclusion. Of course, you may have valid reasons for doing so. Have you heard the translated speeches of Hitler? They don't sound old, they contain things which are still relevant today, and Hitler blamed them on the jews. Given the jews strong representation in positions of power, and their high average IQs, I find it unlikely that there's somebody above the jews who is manipulating them.
You focus a lot on recent events, but most of these issues started decades ago.
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