WandererintheWilderness
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WandererintheWilderness
10hr ago
Hence, under their definitions, "deals have not been kept in the past" is evidence of bad faith
It's evidence of bad faith on the part of the Dems of 40 years ago. I think @Chrisprattalpharaptr 's point re: "legislation from 40 years ago" is that the people at issue are dead (or at any rate no longer relevant), and you can't read the minds of people today based on dirty tricks pulled - consciously or otherwise - by their geriatric forebears half a century prior, even if the current scions are nominally waving the same flag.
I guess the question becomes whether you can meaningfully talk about "a movement" behaving in bad faith in the sense you describe. I guess you can gloss the internal turnover as just what it looks like when "the movement" "changes its mind", and still analogize to the bad Newcomb solution. But I don't think it creates much light to try to talk about "bad faith" when describing the external behavior of a movement without any reference to the conscious experiences of anybody in the movement, whether sincere or otherwise.
WandererintheWilderness
10hr ago
Sensible, but that means no plain-clothes operations.
WandererintheWilderness
11hr ago
they’re not only doing everything possible to make sure they’re on the list, but fighting back in ways that simply don’t make any sense
The goal is to make it impossible to enact the disappear-protesters step of the plan by having too many protesters on the list, most of whom are manifestly not worth the bother of disappearing. The harmlessness of the protests is the point, both in and of itself (in that it'll make a regime that tries to make them out to be dangerous rioters look ridiculous) and because it makes them an attractive position for more and more people to join.
WandererintheWilderness
11hr ago
How, then, do you prevent the problem discussed elsewhere in this thread of random criminals impersonating ICE officers to cause mayhem with impunity?
WandererintheWilderness
5d ago
you’ve said something about Israel? — how dare you criticize every Jew in the world
No, your post had the opposite problem: you were criticizing a random Jew and acting as if that said something about Israel.
This is true if we're talking about a smart, tech-aware dictator. But your original post wasn't talking about people who expect a smart tech-driven dictatorship. It was talking about people who expect Trump to go President Joker and round up all his enemies in unmarked vans. I think the recent protestors' behavior follows a rational strategy within that framework - whose likelihood relative to "Trump continues to be more bark than bite" or "Trump becomes a smart dictator" is, of course, questionable, but that, again, wasn't the question.
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