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7d ago
Bowie would have never drawn his knife to "protect" himself from a shove.
The Bowie knife was a dueling knife intended to settle such disputes, yes. What are you talking about? If you are referring only to a self defense situation, pulling a knife or gun is a reasonable response. You aren't obligated to stop a knife attack only with another knife, nor are you obligated to stop an unarmed attack only with your fists.
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8d ago
Except when the culture was more masculine they solved the problem by simply allowing the use of both.
This is a non sequitur. The person you are responding to isn't claiming the victory was illegitimate, he's making a claim about the level of force that was needed in order to win.
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1mo ago
So when you protest the actions of, say, the Chinese government in West Turkestan/Xinjiang, the appropriate action is to vandalize the local Szechuan takeaway joint just because it happens to be run by a coethnic? That's stupid.
Sure, this is a good point and I'll concede that the first link you posted was reasonable evidence.
The two window smashing examples are still very weak. There are many reasons a business might sustain that kind of vandalism, - an interrupted burglar, a homeless drug addict, a irate employee or customer, etc. This kind of thing is not uncommon and it should not be a surprise that the target would be a Jewish owned business from time to time. The dubious "eve of Kristallnacht" connection does not strengthen the case - the sort of person who might smash a building is very unlikely to even know what that is.
In the case of the 4th example, we don't need to speculate. We know the reason wasn't because it happened to be run by a coethnic, because we know who the culprits were and they told us exactly why that specific business was being targeted.
For your second paragraph I find the argument sympathetic, "tokens in the anti-zionist movement providing identitarian PR cover" is a reasonable perspective to me, but the implication proposed by the Democratic Party at Prayer article seems to be that these same Jewish progressives would be against the removal of Jewish spaces on campus or if the Jewish identity itself was under attack, so the DiAngelo analogy isn't wholly isomorphic in a way that actually matters to Satanistgoblin's original claim.
1: Historic L.A. Jewish deli hit with antisemitic graffiti
Okay, but the graffiti shown says "Free Gaza", "How many dead in the name of Greed?" and "Israel's only religion is capitalism". All of these are congruent with the claim that "America enabling Israel's treatment of Gaza is what's being protested."
2: D.C. kosher restaurant vandalized on Kristallnacht anniversary
I don't see a culprit mentioned or any evidence for a motive given, is it your contention that Leftists are commemorating Nazi events by targeting Jewish businesses? Does that even seem like it would be on the top 5 Occam's Razor reasons for a window getting smashed in crime filled DC?
3: Brick thrown through window of popular Jewish deli in Tarzana
Nearly identical incident as 2, except this time in LA.
The owner, David Laredo, told Eyewitness News he isn't sure whether it was a targeted attack.
"It's possible with... what's going on today everywhere," he said. "It's possible... but nothing was left that indicates that it was a hate crime... I don't know."
4: Antisemitic mob targets Jewish falafel restaurant in Philadelphia
These protests were started by employees (who presumably aren't anti-semitic enough to not work at a falafel restaurant) who were upset that the owners - Israeli citizens - were donating restaurant profits directly to Isreal. Link
5: 'Same as the KKK': New SJP-affiliated group works to remove Hillel from US campuses
Subtitle:
Drop Hillel claims to be campaigning for non-affiliated Jewish spaces without Zionist connections.
Drop Hillel calls itself a “Jewish-led campaign... advocating for divestment from Hillel” that wishes to “weaken Hillel’s grip on Jewish campus life.”
The call is coming from inside the house.
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2mo ago
This would be consistent with the Wong Kim Ark ruling
Wong did have connections and loyalties to his homeland though. He had a Chinese wife and children who were living in China at the time.
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2mo ago
That's fair. A Yankee-Doodle style "We are taking it back" approach to has been successful in the past for sure.
Do you have concrete examples in mind?
our resident witches
This is a good one. Scott's Seven Zillion concept has normalized deprecatory terms towards those people that would be auto-banned if used against other groups.
Do you think Cirrus is a witch?
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2mo ago
It is far better, morally speaking, to be a virtuous loser than a vicious winner.
This philosophy, like the Amish, can at best only exist surrounded by the guns of those who don't share it.
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2mo ago
The obvious play here is for Trump to gift Netanyahu a gold plated copy of the The Protocols. As a joke, of coarse.
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3mo ago
The irony here is that the Nazi's themselves were a larp of another historical group. Perhaps it might help clear up the confusion if we started referring to the latter group as Neo-Neo-Romans instead.
An attack where one party has not agreed is considered a self defense situation and there is no culture that has existed that I'm aware of where escalation on the part of the defender is considered unmasculine.
Your example of a shove can either be
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