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10d ago
It is completely legal for a Eurozone country to trigger article 50 and leave the European Union and therein the Euro
Nope. That's for the european union, not for the eurozone. There is no procedure to leave the eurozone. Once you are in the eurozone you're there and in the EU forever.
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10d ago
you simply issue a new currency and print money to pay property holders at a laughable official exchange rate, giving them cents on the dollar, then briefly switch to using euros or dollars, then issue a new currency. This would require crashing out of the Euro and possibly EU but this, again, is perfectly legal
It isn't. As long as you are in the eurozone you are legally required to follow the stability pact and the eurozone is like hotel california. You might say "it's just fines" but mass deportation would also result in fines, at least in theory.
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10d ago
Lower prices is just something you're supposed to say as a politician. If you vote for a politician because he said "lower prices" you are retarded and I can't help you, but I'm convinced nobody actually does that.
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10d ago
But why not? If humans can exist billions of years before they evolved, before the universe, why not fruit or a snake? It works, though, it pushes everything where we cannot look so it works, I can't deny it. I wonder what the allegorical interpretation for the genealogies going back to Adam is, in this framework.
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10d ago
That doesn't sound like an allegorical interpretation, it sounds like a literal interpretation but placed in, like, a different "dimension" (in the science fiction sense of "dimension").
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10d ago
That sounds swedemborgian to me. He went further and said that hell basically wouldn't suck that bad from the perspective of the souls that chose it, I don't know what Lewis imagined. But I don't think it's the canonical view, that you get a final saving throw after death.
Does it work for you? Imagine the worst person ever, kills and rapes his whole life away, but after death he sees god, says "yep, I guess I was wrong" and just like that he gets the same reward as the most pious of humans. My position has been for a long time that the problem of evil is mostly psychological.
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10d ago
I don't know. Science only happened once in the history of humanity (maybe twice if you count the greeks, but really at scale only once) so it's impossible to establish a causal link. But it makes sense to me that if you psyop every intelligent person into only worrying about the spiritual, because the physical world is evil, they're probably not going to get anything done.
Gnosticism went away probably because of the same trends that made the Dark Ages. The smart people disappeared.
The dark ages had a lot of causes, but I think that a lot of people getting into the mindset that the reign of god was coming soon probably didn't help either. Besides what's making smart people appear and disappear in your model, exactly?
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11d ago
If Genesis is an allegory what is it an allegory for? Because its incompatibility with evolution goes beyond just the factual, it's a narrative incompatibility there is no space for the original sin, for the fall, evolution if anything goes from low to high, genesis does the opposite. Hence Teilhard being censored.
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11d ago
Why couldn't God save his followers in Lisbon from getting obliterated by an earthquake on All Saint's Day, 1755? They lit their candles, gathered in churches. The earthquake knocked them down and the resulting firestorm, earthquake and tsunami razed the city.
What kind of omnipotent, all-loving God treats his followers this way?
Wrong question, wrong approach to the problem of evil. What happens over here is finite, what happens in the afterlife is infinite. If anything the question should be why doesn't God save all his followers like he did with the ones in Lisbon in 1755? Why does He grace only a few infants with death before they get the chance to sin? But the real question is another: can an infinite punishment for a finite crime really be called good?
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11d ago
I will admit my belief is somewhat loaded on the idea that Jesus actually performed miracles. I lean towards this because I don't have a restricted prior against magic, I think all things are possible for the right being, and I think Jesus was obviously somebody because otherwise we would not have a religion about him, particularly one where he died very quickly, a material failure, with only a handful of followers.
I don't buy this argument because we have plenty of contemporary examples of people who were nothing special who nonetheless accumulated a substantial following, think Moon, Joseph Smith or even Hubbard all documented grifters and liars who convinced tens of thousands to millions. If you look at the sources we have about the early church, it's really nothing impressive. A handful of christian texts survive from the first 50 years, almost nobody talks about it. If you compare mormonism today with christianity in the year 200AD, mormonism will look wildly more successful and its basis is some guy saying he read in a gold book that's invisible to everyone but him that he gets to sleep with more than one woman. The success of christianity is far removed from the deeds of Jesus, it only really exploded when it became the religion of the emperor about 300 years later, by that point what exactly Jesus did or didn't do, or even if existed was impossible to know for anyone.
I will stop here, but I thought this could be a fun discussion to be had, because I think it deals with the main adversary of atheism from a different perspective
I don't get what kind of discussion you want to have but I've come full circle from thinking christianity would have had an easier time weathering modernity in the marcionite version, without the old testament, to thinking that we wouldn't have even had a modernity with only marcion. Gnosticism might be logically elegant but, if you think the material world is an illusion or the making of an evil god that you are supposed to escape, you are never going to get anything done, never going to make any progress.
Isn't it funny that in the UK having sex with your actual step sister is legal but owning a scene of someone having sex with someone pretending to be his step sister is not? I wonder when they will finally ban VPNs and put up a great firewall, it has to be what this is all leading up to. But maybe not, banning smoking for everyone born after year 2008 is just insane (a kickback to the streetcorner drug dealer electorate maybe?)
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