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The CCW permitee objections to this is (at least) two-fold, one being related to pratical carrying, and the other to the environment that these regulations live in.

  1. First, the practical consideration: If you as a gun owner want to be able to carry your gun outside your home, prior to these laws being passed, the presumption is that you can carry except where forbidden by law, or where prohibited by posted signage. If the default presumption is that carrying is allowed, you can watch for signs indicating businesses that are open to the public where your firearm is not allowed, and avoid carrying in those places, but otherwise live you life. Since legal definitions of sensitive places are static, and most businesses do not post a sign disallowing firearms, odds are that you can both carry and go about your day. If the presumption is that carrying is disallowed, your ability to use your concealed carry permit to carry firearms is effectively limited only to those places that explicitly invite you to do so, which limits your ability to carry at all.

  2. Environmental/explicit permission concerns: if you are in environments where concealed carrying is explicitly prohibited except by explicit permission, businesses that wish to allow concealed carry must provide explicit signage (New York's language requires "clear and conspicuous signage indicating that the carrying of firearms, rifles, or shotguns on their property is permitted or by otherwise giving express consent"). But this signage also marks the business as explictly pro-gun, which may carry negative business implications that tacitly allowing concealed carry would not, encouraging those that may otherwise allow you to carry in their environment to avoid providing you the necessary permission.

Given that businesses could previously disallow firearms with a sign, and that states such as New York enacted these immediately after the Supreme Court banned "may issue" concealed carry schemes, these laws seemed aimed at reducing the usefulness of the "shall issue" CCW permits these states are now required to issue.