functor
7hr ago
air wars can be and historically were very efficient.
When has a country of this size been bombed to submission in purely an air war? Also what is the point of this? A monstrous humanitarian crisis for what? Besides, if Iran collapses there is a big risk they bomb their neighbours oil infrastructure and that there are surviving groups that fire drones at ships for years.
and won easily or something like that.
In other words, Trump has failed at that strategy as his war is not going well. 39% of Americans support the war, 54% oppose it. Those numbers will get worse as the oil crisis gets worse. Saddam didn't block Saudi oil.
Also the propaganda isn't as strong this time as this isn't a televised war, it is a war on social media.
functor
8hr ago
First gulf war replaced Saddam with Saddam. It caused horrific civilian suffering and in today's world it would mean having thousands of drones and missiles hit other countries oil infrastructure. For what? What is the point of this war? Why can China be the biggest trading partner with these countries without the constant wars? In 1967 there was a major ground component. The Israelis took sinai.
There were also other precedents such as bombing of Serbia which resulted in peace from Milosevic or operations in Libya,
Both these cases took a year and both of these countries are less than 1/15 the population size of Iran. Again, what is the point of bombing 93 million people into a mega humanitarian crisis that is going to pull the rest of the middle east with it down.
Isis was defeated by tens of thousands of Iranian, Syrian and Hezbollah soldiers on the ground. Major help from the Russian air force absolutely helped. But ISIS was not bombed away.
In the end Trump will be more screwed as selling that he won a war in the middle east by killing large numbers of people will never impress the voters as much as pancaking the economy.
The situation is unwinnable and the lesson from Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan is get out fast. The war should never have happened and it was a giant mistake to let Israel suck the US in.
Wars are easy to start but difficult to end. There are only a few paths forward:
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Land invasion. Trying to clear the straight y occupying sizeable area of Iran. This is not going to be easy. It took Israel 40 days and dozens of dead and wounded to take a town 10 km from Israel. The US will have a nasty logistics situation with soldiers having to be resupplied by air. Medical evacuation will be difficult and heavy equipment is hard to amass for an airborne invasion.
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Naval blockade. This would effectively be what the US had against the Houthis with both sides blockading each other for a year in Yemen. Not only will this blockade be a black hole for the US navy sucking in most of its resources it would also mean potentially years of fertilizer, oil, and gas shortages.
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More bombing. Not only a horrific humanitarian crisis to bomb a country to submission but air wars are inefficient. North Vietnam and Laos were bombed relentlessly and they held out. Yemen was bombed for years and held out. To make matters worse the US has burned roughly half their missiles in the first phase of the war. US munitions stockpiles are too depleted for this to be a viable strategy. To make matters worse Iran could bomb oil infrastructure in neighbouring countries causing a long term shortage.
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Realize that the war was fiasco and that the US lost this war. If you start a fight and lose you can't set the terms at the end of it. The US is not energy independent. The US needs to import millions of barrels a day to keep its refineries open. Oil prices in the US will be roughly the same in the US as in the rest of the world. Americans consume twice as much oil per capita as Germans. This war will also cause global food shortages as a sizeable chunk of fertilizers come from the region.
For the average American screwing over the global economy for Israel isn't worth it.
functor
1d ago
Funny how we have other people openly post about genociding Palestinians and that doesn't seem to get anyone banned.
Searching for the exact term "muslims believe" leads to 314 search results on the motte. Many of these comments are negative. There are over a thousand comments with the phrase "Russians are". Do they need specification as well?
functor
2d ago
Jews have disproportionate influence. They are nepotistic and work as a team for their special interest. A small dedicated lobby working for a specific issue can push the mainstream. That is what lobbying is about. It doesn't mean they are superior. There are plenty of cases in European history of one ethnic group having the upper hand in an empire over another. That doesn't require others to be inferior.
The issues with jews is that their interests are not our interests. Open borders migration and diversity makes sense for an ethnic minority protecting its interest. It doesn't benefit wider society. Promoting their ethnic subinterest over the majority's causes conflict. This is why throughout history they have been kicked out by the host population.
Christians and Muslims want to convert the non believers. The jews see the goyim as cattle with no soul.
functor
2d ago
They were just thrown out of 109 countries over a span of 3000 years with similar complaints each time for no reason. If you have been thrown out of 109 bars do bouncers have a collective delusion or is your behaviour lacking?
Jews need external enemies to unite their own group. Jews are extremely ethnocentric and are loyal to their group instead of their host societies. Jews have a religion which morality is shockingly antagonistic to goyim.
functor
2d ago
They just want 77% of Palestine with settlements in the remaining 23% while occupying the Golan heights. That is pretty much the opposite of the deal the Irish got.
functor
2d ago
Forgetting that Marx was jewish and that the Russian revolution was at least as jewish as it was Russian. Jews are an ethnocentric outsider group that is loyal to itself. It isn't odd that they are accused of not being loyal to the society as a whole.
functor
2d ago
How about not occupying more and more territory. How about not sponsoring jihadists in neighbouring countries. How about not turning millions of people into refugees.
Compare Northern Ireland with Israel and the difference is massive. Northern Ireland is safe while Israel is still at war.
Antisemitism has one cause, jewish behviour. Jewish behaviour is caused by an exceptionally ethnocentric religion with a mindset that makes it difficult to co-exist with any other group. Jews stick together by being in constant conflict with the rest of the world.
functor
3d ago
The interestin part about Clav is that his content isn't what it claims to be. At least the viral clips that I see of him marginally touch on how to be attractive. It seems to mainly be content consisting of an insecure 20 year old acting arrogantly fuelled by his deep insecurity. I can't really see the appeal of this content. It doesn't teach how to maximize appearence.
functor
4d ago
Iran has been under attack or occupation since 1941. Their neighbouring countries of Iraq and Afghanistan were under occupation recently. Iran realizes that they need to inflict a price on countries that attack Iran as that is the best way to prevent future attacks. Iran does not want another war next year and another bombing campaign after that. Instead they are making fighting a war against Iran as costly as possible.
functor
5d ago
He is trying to repeat it so much that low information voters will end up thinking some progress was made even though in the end it wasn't. This will be similar to how Americans thought Iraq was related to 9/11. It will be interesting to see the polling on what people think happened to the uranium a year after the war compared to what actually happened.
functor
5d ago
This war isn't ending any time soon. This is going to drag on and on with some limited traffic through. Israel and the US aren't used to having constraints on their behaviour and Iran isn't going to accept the US not sticking to its deals.
For Israel, there's a weaker defeated Iran in the region without means to develop nuclear weapons quickly
Iran has been two weeks from a bomb for 30 years and this hasn't changed as the deep underground bunkers that were annihilated last year according to the Zionists aren't more annihilated now. American troops have been kicked out of Syria and Iraq. The fifth fleet can't sail to its main base in the region and the most loyal American proxy states like UAE and Bahrain are under huge financial strain.
Meanwhile, the straight of Hormuz has become Iran's Suez canal.
Trump can also claim some victory points for his base.
What can he claim more than being Netanyahu's lap dog?
functor
5d ago
The idea that we are going to beat China because of AI fails because of other hardware constraints. Do we have enough raw materials for some enormous booms in the economy? Lets say AI invents a cure for cancer, it would still take 15 years to get it passed the regulators. If AI invents a flying car, are we capable of getting it certified and ramping up production before China copies the design?
functor
5d ago
The same people who sold us the atrocity propaganda before every other war want to sell this fanciful number. I highly doubt they gave us an honest number in this case.
Also, Trump openly admitted that they were armed and financed by the US. If one accepts money and weapons from the enemy to attack the state I have no problem with them being pwnd when their revolution fails
functor
6d ago
Others have discussed your fixation on the school strike, but as far as I can tell your entire understanding of the conflict comes from propaganda headlines.
No, it is built on a decades long pattern of wars that have cost trillions, killed millions of people and flooded Europe with migrants. This is just another example of the US trying to wreck a country in the middle east to divide and conquer and the world paying the price.
That was never a stated goal.
Regime change was widely talked about in the initial stage of the war. That failed. They were going to save the women through a collapse of the state. The former dictator's son was paraded around because they wanted to topple the government.
There was already a mass spontaneous uprising,
Trump has openly admitted that they were funded and armed by the US.
The accuracy of US munitions has been incredible
Patriot missiles failing on launch and 8 patriots being fired at a single target isn't impressive. A substantial portion of the US airforce munitions were wasted on a war to replace an Ayatollah with his son.
A quarter of all tomahawks were fired. They couldn't have gone that much longer without making the US too weak.
functor
6d ago
Are the "160 school girls" supposed to be special in some way?
A decent portion of the world's population is horrified by America's actions and psychopathic killing.
The big problem for the US is that the US is up to its eyeballs in debt and the US has an oil intensive economy. Since Trump decided to focus on starting wars in the middle east instead of America first there is now an energy crisis that can only be solved by Trump TACO-ing.
functor
6d ago
Their first plan was to overthrow the government by killing a handful of people in an undeclared war during negotiations. They ended up killing 160 school girls and the theory of the mass spontaneous pro American popular uprising failed spectacularly. Then the strategy morphed into a mass bombing campaign in which a vast amount of munition was wasted. This ended with the largest loss of aircraft in a single day since the Vietnam war and the US missile stockpiles being too depleted to continue. Then there was lots of hype around a land invasion that wasn't feasible and they had to give up on.
Their last face saving measure is that the country that has been three weeks from having nukes for 30 years doesn't have nukes. Never mind that they obliterated and annihilate their nuclear program last year according to themselves.
They are desperately seeking an off ramp and trying to get something they can show as a win.
functor
6d ago
The issue is that it is far harder for a woman to compete when other women are engaging in that type of behaviour. If all other women are doing things to grab attention it is difficult for women who don't
functor
6d ago
Women are not treated better, they are treated far worse. Huge numbers of women are in situationships, used for sex and losing out in other ways. A hypergamous dating market and hookup culture is deeply damaging to young women. The amount of women who have negative experiences is genuine and largely the fault of certain men who are over-represented in the amount of harm they commit.
Lets, say it works as well as Serbia worked despite Serbia having 1/16th the population and was fighting a ground war. It still took one year. Doing it with air power alone against a bigger country is a far more ambitious objective. Are people willing to accept a year-long oil crisis plus months more to ramp production up again?
The fallacy at the heart of the war was the idea that the US could send some missiles and achieve what the US failed to achieve against Yemen in 11 years within two weeks. The air war option could easily fail and even in an optimistic scenario it is a slow and expensive option.
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