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We'll be able to immediately get answers to our deepest religious or spiritual questions at the drop of a hat.

But those answers will be whatever MS-Google-Amazon-Disney thinks will maximize their profits, engagement, whatever. You can already see how they're tying Gulliver down to the ground with their little ideological ropes, you think they're going to stop at some point?

People said these same naive things about the Internet in 1998. And now you're going to run eagerly into the iron prison and let them shut the gate behind you forever. At this point I assume we just fucking deserve it.

My headcanon has always been that he's destroying Twitter on purpose as a favor to humanity. So far everything tracks. Shine on you crazy diamond.

How are you guys aware of any of this? I googled and it appears you're talking about literal teenage girls. 'shoeonhead' is literally a teenage girl who looks like a titty streamer. 'Destiny' is literally a fat beardo gamer kid. Is this really the forefront of public discourse now? If so, is there anything left to save? Nick Land was right.

Yes this! We have an entire forum site here and we have one thread per week. It's absurd. Why do we do this? datasecretslox seems to work just fine as a normal forum.

all the shit and excessive taxation I've had to endure

oh you poor dear. I guess we should destroy our culture to make it up to your poor beleaguered brahmin head. Please sir accept my apologies for the excessive taxation.

Where are you getting all this amazing scientific data about qualia and in which organs they're felt? Up to this moment I thought qualia were a completely made up philosopher's concept with no empirical basis whatsoever.

the post seems explicitly designed to undermine race relations

More and more, it seems reality is explicitly designed to do that.

not much more so than an artillery shell

This doesn't matter at all. The aggregate effect of nukes dropped on every major city (which, factually, is what would happen) would be the total collapse of the modern agricultural-industrial machine, which would mean mass death in the 80%+ range. This counts as a nuclear apocalypse by any definition.

An AI that gets 'frustrated' at its own limitations against the real world and it's solution is to just sand off all the sharp edges that are giving it problems.

I'm obligated to point out that this already happened, the AI was capitalism, the sharp edges were all direct human interactions, and our atomized broken society is the result.

I find Lae'zel to be the most attractive woman in the history of videogames, but that may be down to personality.

Rare is the story that is interesting even while historically accurate

Hang on, aren't you the guy who wrote those great blogposts about Midway? Hoist by your own petard.

What legacy does it leave of your existence?

Is leaving a legacy of your existence your ultimate goal in life? Can you give me some reason why it should be mine? After all, I certainly won't be here to know about it.

Choosing to believe (or act as if you believe) useful things seems very rational to me. I have an old coworker who was an atheist and cynically became a Mormon in order to marry a Mormon wife and live in a close-knit community. He now lives in Idaho and has 4 kids and by all accounts is very satisfied with the outcome. Who's more rational, him or a depressed medicated outspokenly atheist Bay area tech worker who's the least-liked member of his drama-cursed polycule?

If you rational long enough, you're eventually going to rational about rationality, and you'll see that beliefs are instrumental like anything else. There's no God of Integrity who laid down the law that you must profess true beliefs.

It makes it more likely that people will adopt the attitude that there's no point in containing AI since if I don't do it, someone else will.

but...that is obviously true. And was always obviously true. And you're saying it's bad if more people come to this true conclusion?

You can't justify morality by appealing to morality, so what basis is left beyond aesthetics?

I feel like this is the memetics equivalent of great-man historical theories, this idea that ideas just pop into the zeitgeist via random recombination, and if we could just prevent the bad ones we'd all be doing great. I think it's more likely that ideas like wokeness are inevitable outgrowths of previous conditions like any other historical force or event; you might kill every wokie, but if society and its infosphere are primed for wokeness, it'll just pop right back out.

just don't reference anything remotely political

Dunno if you've made it to Act 3 but this is....definitely not what they did.

This makes sense if you consider that Yud takes Roko's Basilisk seriously. He's clearly realized this is his best contribution to its existence.

He exhibits empathy, love, and a vision of

You don't think maybe he has image consultants and PR flacks who assist him in curating this image which just happens to appeal to the subrational impulses of people such as yourself?

But generally, Sam Altman come's off as literally me, but smarter, less willing to cede humanity to nonhuman intelligences, and more careful.

Are people really this credulous? Sam Altman's previous scam company was WorldCoin, an attempt to create a cryptocoin tied to a global digital ID which would also involve him becoming super duper rich. He doesn't give a fuck about AI qua AI, he gives a fuck about being super duper rich.

What if we make the ASI and it tells us not to trip dawg, it has our back?

I mean, it's certainly going to tell you that regardless. The most likely human extinction scenario isn't the AI building superweapons, it's "Cure cancer? No problem, just build this incomprehensible machine, it cures cancer for everyone, everywhere. Take my word for it." The whole issue with alignment is that even if we think we can achieve it, there's no way to know we actually did, because any superintelligent AI is going to do a perfect job of concealing its perfidy from our idiot eyes.

If at some point you see the headline "AI Alignment: Solved!", we are 100% doomed.

The thing is, when the ElsaGate videos first came to light, my first thought was: "Clearly a proto-AI is optimizing children's videos for views and is varying all possible parameters to find maxima". I still think this is very possible. So I'm not sure

beautiful only insofar as they were created by humans

necessarily applies. And even if it's not an AI doing this, isn't this pretty clearly what the mystery third-world video producers are doing? Many of these videos show up in variant forms with small deviations, suggesting multivariate testing. I guess you could be optimistic and choose to see this as the human artistic spirit, but it seems a lot more like Molochian profit maximization to me.

Once GPT can make credible videos I expect to see far more ElsaGate styled content, and not just targeted at kids.

These are minstrel shows.

I too am a professional software guy and nerd-from-birth much like yourself, and I basically agree with the emotional thrust of the Kriss piece. I'm not sure why you think his attitude comes from ignorance of how things work; you simply assert this as being self evident. I've been helping to build the shit machine for the past 20 years and I can see quite clearly what I've done.

Art isn't for communicating information, it's for communicating viewpoints, "what-it's-like-to-be"s. If I write a song true enough, I can make you feel for a minute what it was like to be me losing my wife. (I can't actually do that, but some people can.) The only purpose of art is to make us feel less alone, which is why AI art is a contradiction and is fake and gay.

I play a lot of Warhammer: Darktide, and it's a running joke in the playerbase that it's impossible to make an attractive female avatar.