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I still like it and it didn't cost me anything.

The hysteria over this flies both ways.

The DOJ has no grounds to take any action against Mamdani as he has only said that he was in active conversation with the legal team over whether or not he could arrest Netanyahu. That can't be illegal, can it? Following that the law apparently says he can't arrest Netanyahu so this is just PR for the lefty base.

That being said, Israel is an apartheid state engaged in terrorism against civilians in large areas that it wants to ethnically cleanse and settle with the genetically correct people. The UN is by their own standards denigrating itself via inaction against such a regime. As is the rest of the world who holds on to the pretense that this is bad under any other circumstance.

To that extent the UN can not act as if their own inadequacies and failures are excusable when they fly in the face of the moral decency felt by free and democratic societies that are fast seeing their electorate turning into single issue voters due to the corruption and crimes committed by zionists and Israel.

Maybe the people of NYC don't want to host the UN if this is what the organization stands for.

I read the entire thing and felt it captured the sentiment around the famous photo better than elsewhere I looked. Where the focus is usually on how 'sad', 'scary' or 'ominous' the photo is, when in reality it wasn't necessarily like that. To me it was defiant.

Tyler is only twenty-four. Rene is twenty-one. Ages when most people are still figuring out who they are, let alone how to survive a lifetime together. Yet here they are, bound by something stronger than romance alone—shared trauma, shared loyalty, shared survival.

It circulates online, often without context. Some see only shock. Others see inspiration. But if you look closely, you see something deeper: a moment where two people stood together in honesty. No pretending. No filters. Just truth.

I didn't clock it as AI, even though it sounded generic at times. But even if it is I like this specific post and don't see the fact that it was written by AI as being disrespectful at all. And I stand by wanting people to read it. (Not to comment on the practice of maintaining a website that writes AI eulogies.)

Somewhere where they can act peaceful and dignified and not murder tens of thousands of innocent civilians, lobby for wars that kill millions and displace and disrupt the lives of even more.

I'm OK with the existence of a jewish homeland. Israel as a particular project is problematic as it infringes on another peoples homeland. I'm also reluctant to offer much support for the Israeli side in that dispute given how belligerently zionists have behaved.

Unlike the many zionists and jewish people I've interacted with online over the years who continuously argue against ethnocentrism, national security and sovereignty for people who are not jewish, I'm supportive of all nations having a secure homeland.

They take hostages only to return them. Bomb army bases during wartime, sometimes giving a warning beforehand, attack neutral shipping as a last ditch defense deterrent and fund militia groups region wide as a response to decades of proxy wars and terror campaigns being waged against them and the entire Middle East. Principally by the US and Israel at the behest of zionists.

There is no ground for calling them an enemy of America unless you define America as an arm of zionism. As the continued actions the the US in the region are not in any way representative of the interests of American people and only make sense in the context of zionist ideology.

South Africa also included a lot of things Israel is doing, hence why both are apartheid.

The international law that is being violated when Israel has been occupying a people for 60 years is clearly one of the bad ones. People obviously don't refer to it as a benign thing. The fact that you think that many other people imagine that violations of international law regarding a conflict zone are of zero moral weight is, pardon the term, delusional. Especially considering how known and unpopular Israel is in this conflict.

I don't see why 'unjust' would be more descriptive than 'apartheid' or 'illegal occupation'. In fact it sounds exactly the opposite. The other two are more descriptive in what exactly is being done that is unjust.

Well, it is for me.

Then you're just wrong.

It does. But it seems like a necessary step to take to prevent more genocides.

I mean, if you're suffering from FOMO and it's your wish to get the last one in before we stop you're welcome to make your case.

I don't know. Is there apartheid lore I'm missing from the middle East?

Who are those leaders and what is their relationship with the US and the UN?

It seems pretty obvious that what's driving the negative PR hounding Israel is decades of hawkish zionist aggression that's been destabilizing the middle East and killing millions. Their most recent outburst of killing Palestinian civilians and dragging the US into conflict with Iran doesn't help either.

But on top of all of that zionism, Israel and Netanyahu still hold on to reverence and support from many western elites. Who constantly belittle themselves in front of their own people to suck up to zionists like beaten dogs.

So it's hardly a mystery then why far left candidates like Mamdani signal hostile intent when the entire far left wing hates Israel.

When Iran's neighbors ally with the people bombing Iran, shelter them in their countries, allow them to build bases and collect intelligence and sometimes even launch strikes from their countries then they're not neutral. Iran threatening to stop shipping and proportionally retaliate where they can is not a Samson option strategy at all.

Israel and American also arms and train militias everywhere. So do some of the Gulf states. Iran is doing nothing that a rational geopolitical actor wouldn't do in that environment.

Defining Americas enemies based on their reaction to a foreign policy that exists in the service of foreign interest and not the American people is nonsensical. They're not the enemy of America. They're the enemy of zionism.

There's nothing anti-American about the events you mention. They're a rational response to a hostile foreign policy dictated by foreign agents. Meanwhile Iranian citizens, despite everything, continue to hold favorable views on American culture.

Odd geopolitical enemy that. Almost like what I said on the outset is just completely true. Unless you define every nation that isn't a puppet to America as a geopolitical enemy, Iran simply doesn't qualify.

It's so silly. They're our geopolitical enemy because we bombed them! Why did we bomb them? Well, for the interest of a foreign entity. Oh... What makes them our enemy then? Well, after we bombed them, they bombed us! Oh... Would they have bombed us if we had not bombed them? No? Well what an odd geopolitical enemy to have. Like calling a hedgehog a predator because they can hurt those who try to eat it.

Yeah if you make up novel definitions no one else shares you can try to claim to win the argument a priori.

Basing the interests of a nation on the nationals that live there and what benefits them? Novel indeed.

Iran is one of America’s greatest geopolitical enemies and has been for decades. They take Americans hostage, bomb American bases, attack neutral ships and fund terrorist networks throughout the Middle East.

Not a single one of those examples can stand under any scrutiny. Unless you define every nation that isn't a puppet to America as a geopolitical enemy. Which is coincidentally what zionists are wont to do.

My presumption would be that around half the electorate are generally in favor of the shitlib worldview, including immigration. Within that half you typically have two types. An ideologically unaware person that cries at refugee propaganda on TV, and an ideological leftist of some stripe. Spain usually has more of the latter than the average European country.

The right wing half is generally similarly split. The type that says they are opposed to immigration or whatever but can't formulate a coherent reason for why since they otherwise buy into the shitlib worldview without being aware, and the ideologically right wing type. It's rare for the latter to exceed 20% of the electorate or strike out on their own.

In a multi-party system like is common in Europe, a 37% approval rating is not that bad actually.

I don't know. Do you put much weight on the feelings of Spanish voters in general? Or only when they can be leveraged towards the rhetorical interests of Israel in some way?

Not to make this sound too antagonistic, I've just been coming across these 2016-era ethnonationalist arguments in favor of Israel from unexpected directions. And I'm having a hard time reconciling just how far removed they are from what has been argued continuously by such people for over a decade. Not to say this applies to you in any direct way, just that you happen to fit a pattern in my brain at the moment, pending clarification.

For me it's either a universal principle, or at the very least a principle that applies to both Europeans and jews, or something else is going on that I want no part of until it's openly explained.

All that aside, I don't think the left wing in Europe has ever cared for populism beyond it being a vessel to take power. They use that power to oppose Israel on pretty consistent grounds to what they advocate at home. In that context I don't understand the question you are asking. I'm not too clued in on Spanish elections, but my ignorant assumption would be that they are democratic, fair and the the current government won.

Men with rifles also took down machine guns. That didn't invalidate the use case for machine guns or the fact they changed warfare, even if they were very heavy and tended to overheat. So I don't see the relevance of the select scenarios where Ukrainians and Russians can fly props and shoot down slow moving drones. Or that there are operational issues with drones in many conditions. That can all be true and drones are still a force that revolutionizes the battlefield in a way that reduces the role of small arms.

An unreliable 1000 dollar drone is an option one can choose multiple times before it stops being cost effective. And that's assuming the tech remains static, which it wont.

It might be more complicated than rock paper scissors but that's not really saying anything. The typical American ideation of a group of armed men resisting the US government relied on a set of priors that drones all but eliminate.

The US lost in the middle east for a variety of reasons. The drones were not one of them and they undeniably moved the battlefield in America's favor. If Afghan and hypothetical US resistance fighters were of the same caliber one might make the argument you're making. But I'm not sure where you intend to find Americans who have the guts and ideological firmament to resist like the Taliban did outside of Amish communities. But in that case the victory condition is largely neither guns or drones.

Am I misunderstanding you or is the claim that you can reliably shoot down drones with rifles? Because that's not the feeling I get from watching drone strike vids at all. To get around linking that soul devouring crap, here's a YouTuber talking to a guy about drones. This video shows more how hard they are to shoot.

It's also hard to imagine a rebel force contesting the US Air Force for air superiority via prop planes.

What people generally refer to regarding drones are FPV drones. The kind that are extremely hard to shoot down. Couple a few of those together with an ISR drone with thermals and any 'Red Dawn' wargames go out the window.

The distinction I was driving at is not whether you consider apartheid SA illegal, but whether considered it apartheid and referred to it as such.

But besides that, what meaning does the term 'unjust' have if we don't mean to eradicate that which is 'unjust'? How is this functionally any different from calling something a different word that conveys the same meaning; that the thing is bad and has to change? Is there any reason you would prefer referring to Israel as the unjust state of Israel rather than calling it apartheid or that its illegally occupying Palestinians?

You not seeing any place is not equivocal to there not being any place, as far as I'm concerned.

It's not a question about what the public wants. The moral order is dictated to the people and then the people vote for the speed by which the moral order will be implemented. Your object level analysis is just inaccurate and perfectly illustrates this.

If we broach the factual terms, such as the reality that the first immigration law signed in the US limited immigration to white men of good character, that's never been relevant to a modern liberal. Or the Hart-Celler act. Under your conception, the US was a white ethnostate until that point in the 1960's. Or how the majority of Americans have supported segregation or worse for longer than they have not. Modern liberalism just paves over that with propaganda about a nation of immigrants and an entire genre of diversity propaganda. And you're just blatantly dipping into that modern liberal framework when it's convenient.

But that's exactly the thing, that framework is universalist and totalitarian. It applies to all. So when a person like you or Adam try to carve out an exception that contradicts that entire framework on the basis that the survival of a specific ethnic group is actually super important, and they can't coexist with any other ethnic groups because those ethnic groups are unchanging in their hatred of them, then yes, I do wonder if this is not just the Dual Morality that's alleged to afflict many diaspora jews rearing its head yet again. What even else do you call this sort of thing?

Because it turns out that when the shoe is on the other foot and they are dealing with other members of their group in their homeland, they prefer the same thing I prefer for my group in mine. Even though that's what I've been told all my life is really bad and evil. They want segregation, all of a sudden, rather than to rely on the fundamental moral good of all people. It doesn't make any sense.

The case for open societies was never made on a case by case basis. It's an absolute and complete moralizing ideology. Saying that you believe in it for one case and not another doesn't work.

There's no explanation given by you or anyone else for this. You're just not supposed to notice.

If these words are not to be used to convey the meaning of the unfair treatment that is alleged, I'd assume you do not apply it to South Africa, or even dignify words like pogroms?

The object level is that Palestinians are the world leader in child amputees. To that extent it would certainly seem correct to state that apartheid or violations of international law regarding occupation fall short of describing the inhumanity of Israel's terror campaign.

As for where the new Israel should be placed, I don't know. But I do know that between the many billionaire zionists, resourceful population of Israel and the international community, especially counting America, could find a universally beneficial solution if the subject was approached seriously.

It's an illegal occupation of Palestine. If we're concerned with using the correct terms. If your argument against SA apartheid is that it's just internal election laws then I'd want you to also recognize that SA wasn't an apartheid state either.

There's nothing interesting to that objection. It's the equivalent of stating that a labrador and a border collie can not both be dogs since they're not exactly the same.

The argument following those admissions is that either Israel is an apartheid state because they don't intend to ever return sovereignty to the Palestinians. Which is what has been the de facto state of affairs for decades. And no one has any reason to believe otherwise.

Or Israel is placing Palestine under a prolonged illegal occupation. Be that the discrimination, illegal settlements and de facto annexation or whatever else. In either case there is nothing positive for Israel here.

But that's the argument: Its not apartheid, it's illegal occupation. Fine, say that. But the argument is not 'actually it's not apartheid when we do it because we rewrote the laws so the words don't line up 1:1 with South African law'.

I'm sure we can all appreciate the real world difference between the Russian owned coal mining outpost of Barentsburg, hosting a population of ~300 that operates on Norwegian land, and Palestine.

Or appreciate that refugees from the Israeli Palestine conflict are not the same as Palestinians living on their own land.

Pretending that no one understands what apartheid means is just annoying wordplay. Israel occupies land and legally distinguishes between the populations within using various criteria and discriminates accordingly to maintain control for the designated ethnicity, just like SA did. They employ de facto separate voting rolls, just like SA. They even deploy the same alleged tokenism SA did. It's as close as you can get to the original to the point of parody. But regardless of that, the practical effect is the same.

The Israelis as they exist today never intend to relinquish any relevant representative control over the explicitly racially defined jewish state of Israel to anyone other than jews. They define themselves ethnically. They define their state ethnically. It is not possible for Israel to exist without jews. It's not possible for the state to be jewish without jewish sovereignty.

But when you live on the same land as a population group that is not jewish then you either make your bed as an apartheid state to maintain your ethnosupremacy over the land or you let everyone vote. There's no argument for why West Bank jews can vote in Israeli elections but West Bank Palestinians can not that is not de facto apartheid driven.