naraburns
nihil supernum
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In Minnesota, I doubt there are any Jorgensens or Lunds who have made a billion off of this scam, they just let it happen.
I have no specific evidence for this, but my hunch would be that if we could trace a complete genealogy of the phenomenon, somewhere at the inception is a (blue haired?) social worker or NGO volunteer excitedly explaining to recently-arrived refugees that if they just fill out a couple of forms, everything will be okay. "You're babysitting your uncle's kids, and your sister's kids, and your cousin's friend's kids? You know, if you just fill out these forms, the government will pay you to do that!"
Compare e.g. the Arizona "ESA" where homeschooling families are now getting money from the government to do what they were already doing... only now, with more Lego! (And books, and tech, and...) One might reasonably argue that this is ensuring educational tax dollars follow actual children rather than serving purely as a jobs program for low ambition and intellectually mediocre adults. But eventually little Billy and Susie (and your uncle's kids, and your sister's kids) grow up and move on, and actually attracting new, unrelated customers is hard, especially since it seems like now everyone on your block is running a government-subsidized "daycare." But since no one ever comes to actually check on your business, well, maybe you can just put down some plausible-looking numbers...
(And if you happen to have moved to Utah in the past year, but you still have relatives in Arizona who will let you use their mailing address, why would you bother to inform the state of Arizona that you no longer qualify for the money? Of course, you might get caught. But if you're a refugee with nothing to lose, what do you have to fear from a fraud charge?)
In other words, while it certainly appears that there is massive grift occurring in Minnesota, I think it is unlikely that it started in quite that way. One needn't have Jorgensens or Lunds who have made a billion off of this scam for Jordensens or Lunds to be involved, not just in letting it happen, but in making it happen--not for their own financial benefit, but for the benefit of their suicidally xenophilic political consciences. Hannah Dugan is not an outlier, Hannah Dugan is an archetype.
naraburns
nihil supernum
5d ago
Nara handles them, and the rest of us can't interfere even if we wanted to. Or at least I can't.
Au contraire! There is a separate system for compiling the list, which you can log into any time. The details have been posted a couple of places, but I will share them again if you want. I periodically remind the rest of the mod team that they are welcome to contribute, though given how little I do with the reports list these days, I don't mind that others devote their time elsewhere.
It is true that I have been the only person compiling the report for the past... checks notes... five years, wow. But the rest of the mod team always contributes in part because the AAQC compiler is downstream from the reports system.
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