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There's really no way out of this hole that has been created.

Basically everything I have read about transgenderism is ridiculous. Neovaginas, dilators, the fetishes, the entire ideology, like there is no way its true. There is no way it makes these people happy, these people are not going to be happy. They are destroying themselves. The kids parents are destroying them. Why stop them? Why argue to save them? Just let them destroy themselves. Let them destroy their children. These people are my out group, they believe almost every other thing I hate about my society, and they are destroying themselves. Why stop them?

It shows a reckless disregard for the lives of civilians, for one.

Does it really though? These were pagers that were getting encrypted messages from Hezbollah. They set up a front company to rig them. What exactly is a "civilian" doing with an encrypted Hezbollah pager?

These weren't grenade sized explosions, most people lost hands and eyes not their lives. It wasn't something that would take out an entire room full of people.

Guys, the subway is not very dangerous during work hours, and the problems with it (congestion, speed) can all be fixed with investment.

People need to get places outside of working hours.

I don't even disagree with what you are saying overall. But "you shouldn't be worried about public transit safety, the subway is not very dangerous from 9 AM to 5 PM" is not a very compelling rebuttal to someone who is concerned.

OK. I don't take that perspective because lording itself disgusts me, regardless of who does it, and people who lord it over anything/anyone disgust me. I'm not aware that I said anything which could be construed as telling you not to assume that perspective. Why are you attracted to that perspecive?

I like the "overlord perspective" to the extent it is a perspective on ownership as defined. I like having exclusive access to things. I see lots of benefits to ownership. I see lots of problems with sharing. If I own a thing I do not see myself as "lording" my ownership over that thing in the traditional sense of the word "lord" / "overlord" / "lording".

Well, no. Read it that way if you prefer. I'm talking about talking about sharing in the context of actually sharing. Talking about it is part of doing it. Apparently, you've found sharing to be complicated? I haven't. "Why is it not complicated?" strikes me as an odd question. My son at 2-y-o would ask me, "What's that, daddy?" all the time. I'd tell him, and then he'd stump me. I distinctly remember once, driving, he pointed to a dog and asked, "What's that, daddy?"

Ok, I am reading it that way because those are your words and that is what they mean as written. If you want me to read it in the way you are thinking of it then you need to use words that mean what you think. These are your words I am responding to:

"If you're just one of the guys talking how you're going to divvy it up, naw -- not complicated at all."

Like you only mention talking about sharing, so that is what I responded to. Talking about it is a part of doing it yes, but what about the other parts? Why are those not complicated? You don't address why the reasons the other poster gave for why the act of sharing is complicated, you just say talking about sharing is easy.

And you don't actually address why sharing is not complicated, you just say that you haven't found it complicated. Exactly why is sharing not complicated? Others have mentioned it requires continuous coordination, continuous conflict management, continuous interest balancing. But your response is just "If you're just one of the guys talking how you're going to divvy it up, naw -- not complicated at all." Your response give substance to your dismissal of the counterpoints, its just a dismissal with a justification that sharing is easy.

Why is it not complicated?" strikes me as an odd question.

Devoid of context it might seem odd, but you have context. I can rephrase the question:

Given that sharing requires continuous coordination, continuous conflict management, and continuous interest balancing - why is it not complicated? Ownership does not need these things.

Good to know. How would I share with you or someone like you? As best I could without letting your egocentrism negatively affect the people I love and care about. Negatively impact me or mine to any serious degree, and I'll just shut you down.

If you don't know how you would share with someone like me, then, to me, it would seem that your ideas on sharing are more complicated than what you write them to be. In your mind, if there is no legal right to deprive others with ownership, how do you not share with someone like me? How would you shut me down?

It's "more complicated" if you unconsciously assume the perspective of an overlord responsible to make sure it works.

If I have the legal right to deprive access to a thing, then I am that things overlord. I have great power and authority over that thing. By your own definition we are overlords over our property, why would we not assume that perspective?

If you're just one of the guys talking how you're going to divvy it up, naw -- not complicated at all.

You are conflating talking about sharing with sharing. No explaination as to why sharing is not complicated. Why is it not complicated?

Plus, you're all in it together seeking the best outcome for everyone involved, so the entire proposition is radically different

Im not in it with you, so how could we be in it together? Im not seeking the best outcome for everyone - I want the best outcome for me and people I know and like. If I am forced to share with you I will take advantage of you as much as I can. What is your plan for sharing with people like me?

About 2 weeks ago ICE arrested 2 people at the same mikwaukee courthouse and it caused a lot of pushback. They were probably expecting trouble. Also some were plainclothes, they went unnoticed when judge dugan told the rest they needed to talk to the cheif judge. Them going unnoticed and hanging back by the courtroom is how they caught the guy going out the side door.