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I felt it didn't do enough to foreshadow/explain the problem at the climax

Problem(s) plural ... I think. It's hard to give a movie a fair watch after reading the book, because you just naturally fill in the blanks yourself, so maybe I'm underestimating what the average movie-only audience would have picked up from the film alone.

"They screwed up the taumoeba in a way that is a mild inconvenience for Grace and utterly incapacitating for Rocky" felt like it might have had a bit of a Diabolus Ex Machina feel in the movie to anyone who hadn't already read the book's detailed explanation, and I'm betting that's the problem you're referring to, but IMHO that's not the biggest problem at the climax.

In the big problem at the climax, it felt like they took away a lot of the Diabolus-level dilemma, changing Grace's perceived cost of saving Rocky from "I will run out of food supply" to "I will just have to go to Erid instead of Earth". I get that they didn't want to change the heart of the ending, and that they did want to remove the "me-burgers", and I don't see any way to remove the resolution of the food issue without just removing the food issue entirely. But keeping a silly me-burger joke in the epilogue would have been so worth it. "Grace was a coward who wouldn't die to save Earth yet now will starve to death to save his friend" was an awesome character arc and a devastating choice for him to make. "Grace obviously goes to save his closest friend after he makes sure everyone else will be okay" hardly even felt like a dilemma.

Hoping I'm being unfair about that - did they discuss the food supply issue in the movie and I just missed it?

attempts at relatable humour in impressively dire and panic-inducing situations

I think it's not the direness of the situation that doesn't fit. When a situation is utterly dire, with nothing to be done to escape the worst of it, gallows humor (see the Real Life tab) often kicks in. Later when a dire situation is over, for better or worse, the people who worked on the situation are also often prone to humor: consider the facetious "towing bill" Grumman sent to Rockwell after Apollo 13 for an example of "better", or Giuliani's SNL appearance after 9/11 for "worse". A situation which merely may become dire isn't an exception either; the disastrous explosion on Apollo 13 wasn't the first "bang" the astronauts heard, because Haise thought it was funny that he could futz with the cabin repress valve and his cabin mates would feel "our hearts jump in our mouth".

I think it's the precise timing of the humor where modern writers fail. Loads of people joke about dire situations when they're fine afterward, joke when they've merely survived afterward, and even joke when they're doomed not to survive and there's nothing to be done, but I'm having a hard time finding good examples of people being jokers in the very middle of dire situations in real-life, at the points when every second counts and the outcome is still up in the air ... and yet that's exactly when too many e.g. MCU writers think it's the perfect time to balance out the tension with a quip.