shoeonfoot
6hr ago
No, Taylor left Japan when he was a teenager and has himself abandoned any claim to be Japanese.
I was fortunate enough to live in Japan for four years in the 90s. I met a white guy who grew up in Japan from a young age and was then in his mid-30s. His parents were French but he attended Japanese public school rather than an international school, which is popular among more affluent foreigners. His Japanese friends considered him Japanese. Obviously the barrier to become Japanese is higher, but Japanese people are more open-minded on this question than most people think.
shoeonfoot
6hr ago
Are you sure they are as loyal to you, as you are to them?
Yes? The vast majority of second and third generation Mexican-Americans are never going to fly a Mexican flag in their life. This is a strawman.
Their views are just as legitimate as yours.
Wanting to deport non-white citizens is a suicidal political position because it foments civil war.
shoeonfoot
6hr ago
I'll never understand this nostalgic mewling. Millions of white Americans are obese, welfare-dependent, high school dropouts who don't hold a candle to a Mexican day laborer, let alone the millions of educated and net-positive tax contributing immigrants whose hard-earned money is used to pay for SNAP so Harold can buy more Doritos.
shoeonfoot
7hr ago
The vast majority of immigrants assimilate in the US by the second generation.
Would you consider a Chinese or Vietnamese person less American if they were born here and spoke English natively?
shoeonfoot
8hr ago
You sound European? I don't know what kind of problems y'all have over there, but my Asian and Hispanics friends in southern California are just as American as me and I won't let anyone tell them otherwise. Right-wingers who went them gone from the country or to feel less American have no place in politics.
shoeonfoot
8hr ago
Were you uncomfortable?
shoeonfoot
9hr ago
"Ominous" how? They're just normal people who are trying to get by let everyone else. The enemies are the billionaire class selling out the country, not everyday immigrants raising a family. These are people who stock your grocery store shelves, clean your bathrooms at the malls, pick your fruit.
shoeonfoot
9hr ago
I saw maybe six white people in the entire store, and no white or even hispanic employees.
And so what? Why does this make you so uncomfortable? They're normal people and not bothering you.
shoeonfoot
9hr ago
Somalis control large swaths of Minnesota
This is ridiculous hyperbole. Somalis don't "control" anything. They'll breed with the whites in two generations and disappear.
shoeonfoot
9hr ago
Do voluntary self-removals also count?
I haven't seen any reliable measures of "self-deportations".
TRAC and the Deportation Data Project are reliable.
shoeonfoot
11hr ago
I'm willing to wager $10,000 with any poster here that the US doesn't hit 4 million deportations by the end of 2028 and that there will be at least 700,000 new naturalized US citizens every year until 2028.
shoeonfoot
11hr ago
You haven't demonstrated that there are "massive differences" on average. What is "massive" anyway?
shoeonfoot
13hr ago
Some people think we're sliding into fascism and non-white people are going to be put in camps soon.
Other people think that if we don't deport 50 million brown people the country is doomed.
It's good to be a sensible centrist.
shoeonfoot
13hr ago
it isn't up for debate that there are massive differences on average between the kind of child OP could have (if not infertile) and the kind up for adoption.
Everything is up for debate. They might adopt Rob Henderson.
shoeonfoot
1d ago
@WhiningCoil didn't present an argument. Like almost all his comments, it's just another convenient anecdote framed in maximally incendiary language that we're expected to accept at face value.
shoeonfoot
1d ago
Ugh, thank you. I'll delete and respond appropriately.
shoeonfoot
1d ago
"Scraping the bottom of the barrel genetically" is unkind and untrue in many cases and the idea that adoption will "destroy" the lives of the parents is disconnected from thousands of experiences.
Adoption has a centuries long history in the Church and can absolutely be noble and, quite literally, life-saving.
shoeonfoot
1d ago
More "small" than "substantial". X has created the false impression that right-wing reactionaries are a core voting bloc of MAGA. If you only interacted with Trump voters on X, you'd get the impression that anything less than the deportation of every single man, woman, and child would be a betrayal. In reality, the winning formula for Trump – attracting Hispanics and non-evangelical + higher income white men and women who did not vote for previous Republican presidents (including Trump in 2020) while retaining the core white evangelical base that always comes out for Republicans – did not require any special appeal to racial identitarianism or saving "Heritage Americans". That's why Trump can make carve-outs for farmers and DACA without losing support on his most bigly issue, immigration.
shoeonfoot
2d ago
Sorry to resurrect this thread but I've only now gotten a chance to read this post and all the responses carefully. I'm curious what you make of this thread. I'll copy it below in case you don't want to click the link.
Why the Epstein story matters so deeply to the political right—and why sweeping it under the rug is not just offensive, but a civilizational betrayal:
This isn’t just about Epstein. It’s about what his case reveals: a nexus of unaccountable power, intelligence cover, institutional rot, and elite impunity. The story touches every nerve the American right has been warning about for a century.
Since FDR, the right has feared the unchecked expansion of the administrative state. But the real danger wasn’t just bureaucracy—it was the fusion of that bureaucracy with the intelligence community, financial elites, and transnational interests.
Epstein is the singular window into this world. A man with no clear source of wealth, deep ties to U.S. and foreign intelligence, and access to the most powerful people in the world—running a blackmail operation under institutional protection.
The CIA won’t talk. The FBI walked away. The media refused to dig. And Israel—whose alleged involvement through cutouts like Wexner is whispered about but never investigated—remains off limits. That silence says more than any report ever could.
For decades, the right has asked: Who really governs? Who watches the watchers? Epstein gave us a glimpse. And what we saw was not a “conspiracy theory”—it was conspiratorial governance: intelligence services operating with total impunity.
This isn’t just about criminal sexual behavior—though the abuse of underage girls is itself an unspeakable crime, and one that demands real justice. But the fact that such crimes were instrumentalized for power is what makes this even more sinister.
The use of sexual blackmail to compromise institutions and shield a network of elites is not a subplot—it’s the playbook. This was kompromat as statecraft, and it operated in the open, protected by the very agencies tasked with protecting us.
The reason the Epstein story haunts the right is that it confirms our deepest suspicions: —Our intelligence agencies are political actors. —Our elites are compromised. —Our allies are unaccountable. —And our institutions lie to preserve their power.
Worse still: every time the Epstein story is buried, the very institutions doing the burying destroy their own legitimacy. The cover-up corrodes the foundation they claim to defend—rule of law, transparency, democratic accountability.
This is what Eisenhower warned of—not just a “military-industrial complex,” but the seamless merger of state power, private capital, and foreign intelligence. Epstein is a grotesque fruit of that fusion. Ignoring it won’t make it go away.
The right sees Epstein not as an aberration, but a revelation. A moment when the mask slipped. When the postwar liberal order—underwritten by secrecy, mutual blackmail, and “strategic alliances”—showed its true face.
So no—we won’t move on. Not because we’re obsessed with scandal, but because the Epstein case is the Rosetta Stone for understanding the modern American regime. And the regime knows it.
That’s why it must be buried. That’s why we must never let it be.
shoeonfoot
2d ago
Buddha statues you can put into your garden
Note that is frowned upon by most genuine Buddhists.
Trump was able to win over a lot more Catholics than he did in 2016 and 2020. In fact, a majority Catholics voted for Clinton and Biden, but then swung like +10 in favor of Trump. I'm not sure what effect this had on Trump winning as many states as he did, but if it was relevant, a Republican will have a harder time winning in 2028 if the Catholic vote swings back to D.
I'm curious to see if organized Christianity adopts a more hardline position on immigration. What I'm increasingly seeing among the Online Right, especially after Epstein, is that the only thing that will salvage the Trump administration is mass deportations, and their attempt to synthesize Christianity with this goal.
shoeonfoot
3d ago
My girlfriend, whom I love and trust more than anyone
Marry her.
shoeonfoot
4d ago
I'm also currently banned from both places.
With respect, this means you should understand why you're being modded in this place. I want to, gently, repeat my request that you drop the sardonicism, snark, and drive-by insults because I think this place would be worse off without someone like you. Also, I am much closer to your side than the other side, so I'd hate you see you banned.
Don't get too caught up on coffee_enjoyer; he's a unique breed. He's like a BAPist – prone to philosophical musings – but with a relatively benign dose of anti-Semitism thrown in.
Ok, consider this a crash out. The last straw was the how many upvotes the "invasive species" comment got. There's just no way that the opinions on this site aren't tainted by racism. Too bad really, this place could be valuable otherwise.
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