sohois
2d ago
Idk
If we're still naming groups of people that have those beliefs, sounds like you want in with the transhumanists and brain upload people
sohois
4d ago
I think then that this perspective would find a lot of support among the doomers, where there is a notable faction that believes highly advanced AI should never be developed.
sohois
4d ago
I'm not sure I entirely understand the purpose of this scenario. You are suggesting that we would create an essentially friendly AI, but then provoke a conflict with it by attempting to shut it down?
I don't believe I've ever read such a specific scenario; it seems like this is already included in the category of "AI that refuses to be turned off", which to LW types is already an unaligned AI. So I would imagine they'd say there's no point looking at such a particular scenario as they have already suggested that a resistance to being turned off is a danger.
sohois
6d ago
I'm going to agree with some of the posters below that they aren't really a good example of Go woke, Go broke. I don't think Anthem had any elements like that, and I understand Andromeda's weaknesses were all just garden variety bad writing. It's only Veilguard where it became insufferably woke - much more "roll hard left and die".
The actual issue is summed up by the fact that there are only 3 titles to even discuss. In the 7 years between Mass Effect and DA: Inquisition, they released 7 major titles, including an MMO. They managed 3 in the 12 years since then, and all of them flopped. Doesn't need anything more than that.
I'll echo the point Poplar made below: surely there are parts of the motte diaspora that can be asked for promotion to bring in some new voices?
Who knows if Scott would be willing to throw us a mention, but even without a direct nod mods could probably go into some of the Open Thread comments and make some advertisements for new users.
And the various substack spin-offs, would none be willing to throw the motte a bone? I don't really know who has become well read outside of TracingWoodgrains, but maybe someone else has paid more attention. (I guess trace is a no go given he stormed off last time he posted here and doesn't even post as Trace anymore, not here, at the schism, or at rdrama)
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