wayfarer
11d ago
But don't tell people that changing their lifestyle doesn't work, because it does.
The tricky part is actually achieving it. I do not have this specific problem (eating so much that I cannot move under own power) but I have some other problems with obvious solutions that I have failed to do so far.
For example winning war can be obviously done by destroying enemy warfighting capacity. It can be done, was done multiple times and it works. But telling this to Russia/Ukraine/Hamas/Israel and telling them that they are stupid failures because they have not achieved it so far despite trying to win a war is not going to be an useful advise.
wayfarer
11d ago
When people get on their high horse and claim that using drugs to solve your problems is a crutch
Well obviously.
But when I broke my leg I got a crutch.
What the fuck I was supposed to do? Crawl? Walk on leg with broken bone, injure it further and howl in agony?
Crutches exist for a reason! There are stupid way to use them, I guess, but typical use of crutches is extremely useful in an obvious way!
I do not have problems solved by Ozempic as far as I know, but if I could pop a safe pill to solve procrastination issues I would do it!
wayfarer
11d ago
Is it worth it to specifically criminalize such behavior?
Probably no: this type of bizarre stupidity seems rare and treating regulation as exciting adventure ends with EU or worse.
And you will get unintended consequences - for example if someone was send to prison for crime not disqualifying them from being parent or was innocent then "obvious" rule would make contact them with them a criminal offense. And it is only first and obvious problem I noticed, within first 10 seconds.
(note: how likely is that story is altogether faked?)
As a wise mullah once said: "What is the cure for such disorders? Beatings."
outlawing extremely rare stupidity and legalizing common stupidity seems backward
wayfarer
12d ago
Well, and some numbers deflated and some claims turned to be lies like that story about soap made out of human fat.
I have no problems with investigating Holocaust and looking into claims, but if someone starts claiming that millions of Polish Jews all just migrated somehow to USSR and similar "explanations" then I am going to interact with them like with flat landers and moon landing hoaxers.
wayfarer
12d ago
Well, Hitler and Stalin were not murdering people in person either.
I am happy to blame both for murders they caused.
The same in Congo. You can be responsible for murder in indirect way (at some point it stops counting, or responsibility is greatly diminished but large part of deaths in Congo has not reached this).
wayfarer
12d ago
I am pretty sure that Great Depression was not intentionally engineered to murder people (unlike Holodomor) or direct result of blatantly cretinous ideas that failed in an obvious fashion (see Mao and 10 - 50 million dead Chinese, in just one of his fuckups) or both (Pol Pot).
Communist regimes have more famines and more likely to have famines in the same situation because communism is evil inefficient scheme. It gets worse when it is run by Russian state as it brings own share of evil and fuckups.
And "Great Depression was bad and killed many people" is not some contrarian idea anyway.
every famine in a communist country is automatically and intentional act of mass murder and must be treated as such.
I mentioned specifically Great Chinese Famine without claiming that it was intentional act of mass murder. Because it was not.
And to be clear, from what I know it dear leader Mao starved millions of people by accident, though as direct result of his evil and stupid ideas. Ideas were stupid and evil, but starving multiple Holocaust worth of Chinese people was not intentional. What makes it probably worst fuckup in history of humanity.
Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin were evil as fuck but murdered in large part people they wanted to be murdered. Mao murdered primarily people he has not wanted to murder.
(...) United States are all the understandable effects of blight, weather patterns and supply chain issues
Dust Bowl has not reached real famine levels and was clearly not intentionally created, and was not so obviously predicable as what Mao did.
Trail of Tears involved people starving to death, but AFAIK not blaming it on responsible people is a minority position.
I am not aware of Great Chinese Famine or Holocaust equivalents in USA history. I bet that say some Indian tribes were deliberately starved to death in part, but nothing even close to scale of this two.
Tsarist Russia
I can complain long about Tsarist Russia but I am not aware about deliberately-man made famines among their crimes. Unlike USSR Russia which did it.
If you know about any, I would be glad to learn about it to further confirm my bias about Russia.
every famine in a communist country is automatically and intentional act of mass murder and must be treated as such.
not every, but if you deliberately starve people to death then you get people mentioning it for quite long time
if communists wanted to avoid getting blamed for murdering people on large scale, then they could have not done so
Ireland, British India, Africa, ancient regime France, ancient China
I have not mentioned them as I am less familiar with histories here.
But I am willing to bet that ancient regime France, ancient China were oppressing peasants but famines were not deliberately man made and rather result of blight, weather patterns and supply chain issues and lack of mechanized farming. Though deaths would be lower if nobility would be less into their typical activities of nobility.
Revolutionary France did mass murder of Vendeans but AFAIK man-made famine has not featured much there.
wayfarer
12d ago
I believed the Holocaust happened but the reaction of confused outrage from certain people who are used to essentially having an auto win button in these arguments is silly.
is past tense intentional?
if yes, do you plan to stop believing that WW II happened because everyone involved produced piles of propaganda and after few decades a lot of it is believed?
wayfarer
12d ago
perpetrated largely by locals like the Belgian Congo.
AFAIK this was perpetrated largely by locals but induced by certain Belgians - it is not like death rate without them would be the same as in modern Europe, but certain Leopold definitely made things worse in quest to enrich himself
I am perfectly happy to blame him for this mess (with disclaimer that baseline number of deaths would be quite high, applying noble savage myth here is a bad idea)
wayfarer
12d ago
I think the issue is that a lot of the history as taught and then used as propaganda are exaggerated and weaponized to create a propaganda machine that uses the mythology to demonize even relatively harmless ideas or to justify wars to destroy movements or to prop up bad ideas.
this seems remarkably optimistic view, that only "a lot of" is affected
It furthermore creates an idea that there was only one major genocide in human history and it was uniquely evil.
oh that is definitely silly AND happening
It gets worse when someone tries to define Holocaust as limited to murder of Jews.
It means that any ideology that you can connect to something the Nazis said or did is now to be suppressed and if possible eliminated by “right thinking people” everywhere.
which has side-effect of whitewashing Nazis, it took quite a lot of time for it to happen but dedicated effort managed to push it and continues to push
(Neither of above implies or agrees with fact that Holocaust was faked, WW II was used to absurd degree in Russian propaganda and absurdly twisted to the point where it detached from reality, see convenient forgetfulness that Soviet Russia entered war as ally of Nazi Germany. This does not mean either that WW II has not happened.)
wayfarer
12d ago
Because of course the alternative is to figure out the correct, respectful way to tiptoe around the conversation over whether Jews control the American government/assassinated Kennedy
I admit that primary use of themotte for me is to remind me that replacing leftists with rightists likely will not reduce overall stupidity levels at all.
wayfarer
12d ago
Are you as doubtful about other mass murder? Hutu/Tutsi? Circassian genocide? Polish Operation of the NKVD? Are you also doubtful about Holocaust part where they murderer millions of people who were not Jews? Was Wola massacre also faked?
Yes, uniqueness and speciallness of Holocaust is overstated. At the same time
industrial state putting huge resources into mechanically killing a slave labor force while it's in the middle of an existential war for existence just doesn't add up
is easily explained by people sometimes irrationally hating others. What Hamas would do if they would industrial state and nearby Jews? Do you really think that either Third Reich or USSR was close to optimal use of human resources (even taking account solely economic benefits)?
Do you think that also gulag system and Great Chinese Famine was also faked? Do you think that Great Chinese Famine was result of things smarter than Holocaust?
wayfarer
12d ago
As Temple Mount is part of Jerusalem you cannot target Temple Mount without targeting Jerusalem.
wayfarer
15d ago
In some cases it was not result of well meaning people.
It was result of some idiots angry that fallible system failed to predict storm/earthquake and suing operators of alert system. Obvious response is to flood system with false positives to avoid false negatives.
Not sure how to solve it.
wayfarer
15d ago
Basically, I would be fine with being woken up by an alert which has a 10% chance to save my life.
I would be fine with 0.1% Definitely with 1%.
But I got so far thousands of warnings and none was even close to that.
wayfarer
15d ago
Hence the recent proliferation of militarist neocon feminist girlboss politicians all around the EU, for example
which ones? nothing obvious comes to my mind. Sanna Marin and Kaja Kallas were mentioned in other post - any more? Or is it all
It never turns out great.
Yes, underestimating enemy is idiotic (for latest local example see invasion of Ukraine, where it repeated multiple times in various fashion, starting from attempt to have a quick victorious invasion)
wayfarer
16d ago
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AFAIK noone claims that fireworks are deadly for dogs - rather that they are distressing and unpleasant
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AFAIK Ukrainians (1) care about people hurt in attacks (2) they took serious actions to reduce rate of this happening
I smell a psy-op.
likely it is not psy-op but deranged dog-lovers treating them as children and/or people caring about dogs and valuing them over enjoyment of fireworks
plus impotent and ineffective attempt to target assholes launching fireworks at utterly random hours
why you expect psy-op?
wayfarer
16d ago
IMHO neither of people looks repulsive (taking into account that maximally uncharitable stills were taken)
I can assure you that less flattering Trump/Putin/Macron/erc images can be found it and it also proves nothing.
wayfarer
16d ago
This would act as deterrence in a way that targeting a major city would not
last time I checked Temple Mount was in Jerusalem, a major city
wayfarer
16d ago
"has no arms production" is distinctly different from "has arms production not relying at all on imported components"
"has no arms production" is distinctly different from "has no large scale industry" (which was not true either last time I checked)
You claimed "has no arms production" which is simply a misleading mendacious lie that you put there on assumptions that people reading it are idiots that will believe you.
You at the very least need to disclaim that abuse can have lasting effects, especially extreme one.
And that poor to great parenting has much lesser influence on outcomes than people expect.
It is different claim than "It's genetics or it's random."
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