whatihear
20d ago
If you are going to retaliate, you want to pretend to do it for some other reason but wink enough that everyone, especially Google and OpenAI know it’s a retaliation. Former officials actually seem perfect for this. Current leadership should keep their traps shut though.
whatihear
26d ago
That doesn’t seem particularly relevant. It’s never possible to prove murder with 100% certainty, especially if you are admitting absurd mental states that are totally out of character for the murder. You could say the same thing about sudden hallucinations making murder with a gun actually manslaughter.
whatihear
27d ago
That’s not how thought experiments work. You can’t resolve the trolly problem by just saying, “well what if there is a third track with no one on it! Ha!”
None of those situational tweaks apply in the scenario I proposed. The watcher can trivially save the dangler. They are not afraid of heights, and they are plenty strong enough. It costs them basically nothing to save the dangler. If you want to argue that there is still some risk, we can even make them tied into an anchor point by a climbing harness so it’s completely safe. To me that’s murder.
whatihear
27d ago
The burns example where your buddy is in horrible pain and bound to die soon is another one that works. You can play with it by having him be actively begging for death or just screaming wordlessly.
It’s also not clear to me that action vs inaction is a super bright line. I would certainly consider someone a murderer who stared down passively as someone else slowly lost their grip on the top of a cliff when the watcher could have reached down to save them at any point.
whatihear
27d ago
There is excess demand for adoptable infants (though I doubt there is for downy ones).
whatihear
27d ago
The difference between fetuses and adults is not that fetuses have lives less worth living, it is that they are very different looking organisms and it’s not at all obvious to people that don’t believe in souls being delivered at the moment that the sperm burrows into the egg that fetuses are people. That’s the thing you need to engage with. Some people might be arguing that it is permissible to “put people out of their misery” if they have lives which don’t seem worth living, but this is a much more fringe position than people who just think fetuses are not people.
How come you’re posting under a pseudonym and not your real name? This forum would not exist if all social medial had to be tied to real human users.
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