yestrusocialist
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yestrusocialist
4mo ago
The Dixie chick's were never censored. Bush said they are free to speak their mind. Their label kept selling their albums, their concert tours continued, and major media gave them plenty of press to explain themselves and get their ideas out.
Some of their fans didn't buy more CDs. That's not censorship.
Renaming French fries to freedom fries in the congressional cafeteria isn't censorship either.
yestrusocialist
5mo ago
Ali is not uncommon in the US, and doesn't have any Islamic connotation Every single one I've met is a much less hot version of her:
The Dixie Chicks were not cancelled in any meaningful sense. What happened to them was:
- Their record label continued to sell their albums, and to fund the production of more albums
- Their concert tour continued as scheduled. Extra security was provided in response to potential threats by disgruntled randos.
- Some radio stations stopped playing their songs, others did not. At the time radio stations had very little concentrated ownership or control, apart from ClearChannel (which did not stop playing their songs).
- The mainstream media was happy to give them multiple opportunities to air their views, including letting them appear naked on the cover of entertainment weekly
- Some of their fellow artists supported them, others expressed disagreement and criticism
- Some of their customers got angry and stopped purchasing their CDs
- George Bush said they are and should be free to speak their mind
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks_comments_on_George_W._Bush
Pretty much any cancelled conservative would have been extremely happy to receive this treatment. From what I can tell, George Bush is right - this is basically how freedom of expression should work. Say what you want but don't complain about a moderate decrease in sales.
For comparison, Milo was:
- Banned from all major social media (which didn't really exist at the time of the Dixie Chicks controversy)
- Had his books cancelled
- His speaking appearances were cancelled by institutional gatekeepers, with threats by disgruntled randos occasionally cited as a pretext
- Mainstream media did not give him high profile appearances where he could express his views or defend himself
Kanye suffered all this, in addition to having his bank accounts closed (retaliation for saying Jews control the banks, which they obviously don't).
yestrusocialist
6mo ago
The guy working the counter at Mcd is not the modal poor person or recipient of benefits. The modal person is on welfare, (fraudulent) disability or similar who does not work at all and is not looking for work.
We don't need them, unless "we" = left wing politicians who harvest their votes or perhaps educated leftists gaining money/status from fake jobs servicing them.
The rest of us would be better off without them.
yestrusocialist
9mo ago
Malaysia has.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahathir_Mohamad
I have seen a theory that some of it was intended to create a (nonexistent) Jewish scapegoat for Malay ethnic mobs to distract them from (very real) Chinese and Indians they were currently targeting.
Similarly, "Black americans stop beating up Asians. Your real enemy is the Uzbeks."
yestrusocialist
9mo ago
Yes, it's all lies. Big mean Trump is fooling the innocent construction company and permit offices of NYC, all of whom are completely non-corrupt innocent idealists seeking only the best for everyone.
Back in reality, trump is a NYC real estate developer the same as all the others. Everyone involved knows the game. Trump didn't make the game this broken, NY politicians did. Trump has always been critical of them, and engaged in theatrics to expose them - e.g. writing a book, public clashes with Ed Koch over what later became Trump skating rink, etc. This is what led him to enter politics.
What would you have preferred he do? Be the only honest real estate developer and go bankrupt cause nothing gets built? (Similarly, I don't fault Soros for breaking the pound.)
yestrusocialist
10mo ago
No, they are an indication tariffs are a net negative for currently existing publicly traded companies.
If every market participant believes there will be major creative destruction as not yet public companies replace existing public ones, stock prices will go down even while every participant believes this will be good for the world.
(Not a tariff defender, just think it's worth making explicit what market movements mean.)
So a single struggling group of radio stations decided to stop playing the Dixie chick's. The big one (clear channel) did not.
Certainly not a situation like, e.g., Kanye getting cut off by his record label, radio, social media, streaming and his bank.
I'd definitely call the latter censorship, particularly given that we know the govt is often pressuring these "private" companies behind the scenes. (I am not aware of Bush doing that, though Obama + Biden definitely did.)
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