ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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6hr ago
Do we…not?
I actually thought we required renouncing other citizenships before letting someone naturalize.
I think there are some words to that effect that you have to recite when getting the citizenship, but no, they're dead letter, and the U.S. is perfectly happy with dual citizenships, as far as I know.
ArjinFerman
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6hr ago
The original question that drove this thread is "are AfD far-right?"
If that's what is driving the thread, than it has gone completely off the rails. Here's their position on remigration, I have admittedly only scanned it very quickly, but I am not seeing "remove citizenship from natural-born citizens and deport them on the basis of ethnicity" anywhere in there.
ArjinFerman
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7hr ago
Too wordy. Also, what I could have done has no bearing on whether you are using the term as a front to oppose any kind of stricter migration policy.
ArjinFerman
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8hr ago
This works both ways. How am I supposed to know that you didn't mean mass mean mass deportation of e.g. recent asylum seekers and migrants?
There would be a civil war if we tried this. They're not going to just let themselves be expelled.
If we done it now, at worst it would be riots, not civil war. They don't have the infrastructure for sustained resistance. If we wait until we're a minority than yeah, which is why some of us are trying to raise the issue now, rather than wait.
Except for South Africa all your examples are in times of war
It was after times of war, but if you want something better fitting, Estonia stripped all ethnic Russians of citizenship after it left the USSR.
ArjinFerman
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16hr ago
Is it not customary for parties in Germany to have a campaign platform outlining all their proposed policies? That's how it works for American elections. They don't have to fully follow it
Of course it is, but as yout second sentence notes, this is basically campaign slogans but with more words.
And if the question was just about their party platform, I'm confused why people are acting like it's some sort of secret knowledge.
It's been a while since I saw any, but campaign posters are usually about not doing the latest insane thing that the government did. They shut down nuclear power plants? AfD wants to keep them. They started a War on Diesel? AfD says Diesel is awesome. Some might call this knee-jerk contrarianism, but we arguably reached a critical mass where knee-jerk contrarianism is a functional program for human flourishing.
On top of that, I'm confused why this is demanded only of them. Every other party runs on empty slogans. Conservatives say: "strong economy", soc-dems say "solidarity", what the hell do either of those even mean, and how they're supposed to be achieved under the constraints the country is operating in remain a mystery, and that's without mentioning the fever dream madness coming from Die Linke and the Greens. Yet, it's somehow AfD and only AfD that has to have a fully fleshed-out plan for all of society.
I think they might find out what countries like Hungary found out... just because you block immigration, doesn't mean you magically fix the economy or birth rates.
Even if all they tackle is the migration issue, it will be a significant relief for the criminal jusice, social welfare and education sysyems.
ArjinFerman
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19hr ago
How is that taking civil rights away? Are borders themselves civil rights violations? Are taxes?
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
She would probably also be thrilled at how much women have advanced in society.
I highly doubt it. Back then, what we have now was an "uncharitable strawman slippery slope" that conservatives would use the try and scare people away from social reforms. If you beamed a woman from back then to now, her reaction would most likely be to "oh my god, they were right", and to become a nun, for good measure.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Now they need to wheel and deal in parliament to make things happen
What's the sort of thing that they could (theoretically) make happen on the state level, by the way?
Or, suddenly thrust into the driver's seat, they self-moderate their populism
What do you think they would need to moderate to become more functional? There was a time when the mainstream had a credible claim on just being normal, and populists could be portrayed as whipping up greviances to grift their way to power, but these days are long over. Nowadays it's populism that's based on just being normal, and the mainstream that needs to be forced to moderate through the threat of populists taking power.
That's not very convincing. For one, it completely blows up your earlier framing, it's not about "defending women even if..." , it's about supporting them only when they're in the same class, and even the class issue falls flat when you compare it to the reaction to JK Rowling. She was just as popular as true crime is now, when she made her comments on the trans issue, and legions of women built their identity around Harry Potter.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
In that case you need to drink more.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Nah, never heard from him again, though I can hardly judge, given that I put the project on the back-burner myself. I wonder if that project wasn't too ambitious... and whether it's a lot more reachable given AI...
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Thanks! It's this one for anyone else who's interested.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Which podcast? I scrolled up the conversation but I'm not seeing any links.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
The voices told me to kill my family and I did it but I knew that wasn't the right thing and couldn't help myself = guilty.
The voices told me to kill my family and I did it because if the voices told me to do it must be the right thing to do = NGRI.
That's what I assumed, and my argument is that we are in the former scenario, implied by Clancy attempting to hide her actions. Of course, if the state operates under a different framework than the argument does not apply.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
The field has some limitations of course but doctors are doing this every day all over the country and it works fine and is a standard part of the legal system.
You can say the same thing about transgender healthcare, that doesn't mean it rests on sound assumptions. Everything you said here only reinforces my impression that this is more of an art than a science, and the whole thing is based on trust, which I don't have a lot to spare at the moment.
if someone is pretending to have cognitive deficits to avoid blame you can ask them a question that even someone with severe retardation or dementia can answer like "what's 2+2." Anyone who can't answer that is going to be highly suspicious.
This in particular sounds like the whole thing rests on "the experts" having 20-30 IQ points on the people they're investigating, and being reasonably confident they'll be doing the manipulating, rather than being manipulated. I don't think that's a reasonable assumption here, and I'm really not seeing anything that's supposed to catch this case in particular.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
"She has some planning elements to it" insanity doesn't have to mean complete irrationality.
Like I said in another comment, even if this is true (and I'm not sure this is actually established), I'm having trouble seeing the "not guilty" part of "not guilty by reason of insanity".
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
I thought that the idea behind "not guilty by reason of insanity" is that the culprit was in a state where they had either no control of their own actions, or were unable to tell their actions were wrong, and so can't be held liable. Having a mind organized enough that you're capable of planning, and being aware of the necessity to hide them, seem to strike at both of these assumptions. Even if there is a form of psychosis that works like this, I'm having trouble seeing the justification for a "not guilty" verdict.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
In the case of a crime of passion you know what you were doing is wrong, if you try and pretend you were briefly randomly psychotic you'll get "by what mechanism" "oh so you chose to do drugs knowing that drugs are illegal and bad."
Except these days it's trivial to get prescribed drugs from a doctor, which you can then use as an excuse.
I'm more open to the psychosis explanation than most people here, but I feel like "the experts" are on shaky ground on the issue, and are pulling a "trust me, bro".
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
-It seems like actual experts in this field are landing on a psychotic process (most likely postpartum psychosis) as the explanation of events. That is to say she is legitimately not guilty by reason of insanity. This moved the needle for me. How can I criticize women for being retarded and not listening to actual information if I don't listen to experts and people with specific knowledge of the case.
What's the expert explanation for her preparing for the act by sending the husband away for chores, and even biding her time by calmly picking up the phone whem he called?
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
I've been meaning to ask for a while - does anyone know anything about the guys behind it? The show's great, but I can't shake the felling that it's all set up for a rug-pull in the finale.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
Donald Trump was still on twitter until 2021!
Is "we didn't ban the sitting / former President of the United States yet" really an appropriate example of how lax the censorship was?
Most countries are actually fairly chill about this, and said fee is the usual price of pushing through the paperwork that you have to pay to get literally anything done. Ironically it's the US that's rather strict about it, and hits you with pretty heavy exit taxes, though more countries are starting to talk about implementing something similar.
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