ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
3hr ago
if my priest made a Charlie Kirk assassination joke on the pulpit tomorrow morning I'd be offended.
Then the lord said to Moses, "triggered much, snowflake?"
But seriously, I agree. Some time has passed and tempers have cool down, and in the meantime make your jokes in private, with people who you know aren't going to be bothered.
Why the need to "believe"?
Because I do not exist outside time and space, and need to wait for events to unfold, before I know their shape and sequence. Until then I am stuck believing what they will look like, based on what happened in the past.
As a general point: all of this means nothing, if you can't make a prediction. It just shows you feel more comfortable squeezing established facts into your preferred theory, something that is pretty trivial to do, no matter what you believe, for the very reasons you, yourself outline.
And on the specifics:
And of course no mention of the one that’s coded right-wing, If you read this, you’re gay!”, because that one doesn’t fit the narrative
You have backwards. Left wingers are the ones glossing over the bullet that clinches it ("catch that, fascist"), and the "you're gay" one is not even very right-coded. I've seen gay people throw glitter bombs and exclaiming "you're gay now!".
Also the point of my prediction is that upon further investigation we won't need to rely on one-liners scrawled on bullet casings, the wider context will become available.
ArjinFerman
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11hr ago
It's trivial to come up with justifications for why your theory is correct no matter what, that's why predictions are so important. You should be able to make some that prove your theory correct, and some that prove your theory false.
If you think it's a great way of analysis, the best way to argue for it, is to demonstrate it. If you demand that we do it, and rest your case on a fanfic, the impression you're giving is that you don't think it's of much value either.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
12hr ago
Well, free to provide some scenario that might disprove your theory then, because if you expect the same thing to happen whether your theory is right or wrong, than your theory is not very useful.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
Rationalist napkin math is a terrible form of analysis, but if you think you have the right to expect it from me, why didn't you provide any in support of your argument?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
I may very well be one of the people losing the battle against my own biases. At the same time, I've seen what I've seen, and I can't unsee it.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
Somewhere in here you were lamenting how the place is just a husk of it's former self. Is your recollection of it's glory days that of people grasping on to typos of their interlocutor, in an attempt to avoid making predictions? Does your tone throughout this conversation represent what you think we should strive for?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
People don't have memories long enough to recognize it as hypocrisy, and even when they do, overcoming your bias is a very hard struggle that most people will fail at.
Democracy is just the packaging for power anyway.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
I won the majority of the bets I made to date, the ones I have open can plasibly still turn around, but they're looking pretty good, actually, and I paid off my mortgage.
I'm also taking bets on this issue, and I actually think making future predictions is much more productive here than writing fanfics based on your psychoanalysis of the shooter. I believe the incestigations are going to keep turning up evidence that he was a radicalized leftist, and there were no personal motives for his shooting.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
I have no idea.
Even if such would-be shooters exist, the idea this Robinson is one seems to be justified by absolutely nothing, except the fanfic you wrote.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
I'm sorry but none of this strikes me as serious or meaningful
That's fine, though the fact that the ide he would have packed up and left, if Kirk hadn't mentioned trans people, does strike you as serious, shows your analytical skills aren't particulrly reliable in matters related to this case.
Your position of "it's bad no matter who does it", is one that I can agree with myself. It has some practical questions to answer like "...and after this wonderful showing of principles nd refual to retaliate, how are you going to prevent them from stomping on your face after they get bck into power", but if you can give a good answer, I'm more than happy to agree.
But his position I can only interpret as "it's only wrong when you do it".
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
14hr ago
I get where you're coming from, but there is no way to turn down the temperature. The brainwormed extremist 5% on each side have control of the thermostat and are only interested in turning it up.
The people turning up the temperature for me right now are the "reasonable centrist" types, much moreso than the extremists. I can tell when someone has brainworms, and roll my eyes at them as long as they're not a danger to anyone.
The centists? Ho, boy. From immeditely going o a NEVER AGAIN crusade against cancel culture, even thoughvhe was completelt unbothered by it for 10 years straight, to writing massive essays about how it's okbto shit on a man's corpse before his family had time to bury it, because "something something grifter" and he wasn't an autitic rationalist setting aside his biases at every step, to "actually he wasn't leftist, he was a gamer", to "it's the victim's fault, the shooter would have walked away, if the guy wasn't so mean to trans people", the centrists have been far more radicalizing than the radicals.
The ones walking away from this looking the best, are the ones who at least have the decency to not say anything. Their approach makes it hard to get a headcount, but I noticed a few, and appreciate them.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
It's a bit of too gossippy for me to lean on it either way, but how does this make things complicated?
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Though there it was an anthem of the thieves, who weren't particularly political
However, the history of the song is explicitly explained in the show, so it's not hard to imagine how a binge-watching leftie would get the idea to re-adopt it.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
That's very convenient because none of these things are relevant. The Christchurch shooter had a particular ideology, and no one would have acceoted "well, he wasn't registered Republican" as an excuse (righlty so).
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1d ago
Does this mean we have open season for dark humor, and you will defend the type of humor you don't like, or is this a lame gotcha attempt?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1d ago
Like I said, I'm taking bets. This isn't based on evidence, this isbthe left psy-opping itself in a desperate attempt to deflect responsibility. Notice how you had to gloss over the "catch this, fascist", and invert "bella ciao" to even make it make some semblance of sense, and they also doxxed a completely innocent man in an attempt to prove the killer donated to Trump.
The closest analogy to this is Nick Sandman, when you lot desided his smirk is somehow racist. Once it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he's a lefty, we'll come back to pretending none of this has ever happened, and that he's somehow not representative of the left.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1d ago
She was always an economic-left / cultural-righ type. I don't think her views changed much at all outside of coming to certain unflattering conclusions about the state of the contemporary left.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1d ago
Kirk opposed the civil rights act. Motteposters may not consider that a far-right political view, but normies do.
If you just drop that little factoid and leave it at that, this might be true. When you explain why he opposes it it will probablynturn out that even a good chunk of liberals agree with him.
It's always then same story with these slogans.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1d ago
We can talk about cooling the rhetoric once the 2026 elections happen.
Of all the things to say... I don't suppose it crossd their kind this incident might have a negative impact on the coming elections?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1d ago
Maybe? Depends on the situation. This isn't something governed by codified rules.
Yeah, no, this is cope. If you're going to do it, own it. It's perfectly defensible as retaliation and deterrence, but it's lame as hell to put shit under a microscope to come up with whatever difference you can find, and claim it's salient in a totally not ad-hoc fashion, so you're justified in whatever you're doing.
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