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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 31, 2022

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You must be thinking of Europe. In America, sports teams make money and several are owned by large companies.

None of your complaints about how the leagues are run has anything to do with how a team operates on the field/court/ice. The coach is the sole authority, but must delegate all of the actual playing. Players are given leeway in proportion to how good they are (e.g. Auston Matthews faces less consequence for a lazy giveaway than Aston-Reese). Players are also criticized in proportion to how good they are. Everyone on the team buys into the system, they win and lose together. When the coach starts to lose the players respect or the good players start to not care about the outcome, it's a problem that needs to be fixed ASAP.

Do you think any other model could win games? If so, why hasn't it been done? How does this example not apply more generally to every organization?

Do you think any other model could win games? If so, why hasn't it been done? How does this example not apply more generally to every organization?

We’re talking about the economy, not some game where a higher power tells every firm they’re only allowed to have the exact same number of employees and set a salary cap on their wages and restrict which company employees can sign with when entering the industry and can extract concessions or prevent an employee from changing firms if an opposing firm doesn’t offer a higher guaranteed salary. It’s apples to oranges.

A team sport is "given this number of people and this equipment, do this thing better than the other team". In addition to each player being good, the team itself has to have a certain structure. Why is the right-wing hierarchical structure the only one that's ever used?

It's the most effective, and not a coincidence that rightism and affinity for team sports are linked.

I don’t think anyone argued hierarchy wasn’t efficient, or at least I have not. I think you said small business, like sports teams, are pillars of efficiency. But sports teams aren’t finding their size in pursuit or as a result of efficiency, but literally by the arbitrary rules of their sport.

A hierarchy is the most efficient organization. The most effective form of business and sports teams are this way.

By the rules of any sport you could have a non-hierarchy team. In football you could have a vote for every play call. In hockey there could be a team with diversity hires and ice time based on seniority. You don't see this because it loses in a hurry.

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