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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022

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None of this ranting repeat of what you wrote above changes the fact that you have yet to provide any actual evidence of your proposed causal process. Based on some recent discussion in the CW thread (I believe), it seems like a lot of the specific issue of "pushing people in front of trains" is schizophrenics going off their meds. Their behavior is not based on a logical reasoning process and therefore cannot be influenced by a cultural more that (allegedly) allows some people to get away with such behavior.

Based on some recent discussion in the CW thread (I believe), it seems like a lot of the specific issue of "pushing people in front of trains" is schizophrenics going off their meds. Their behavior is not based on a logical reasoning process and therefore cannot be influenced by a cultural more that (allegedly) allows some people to get away with such behavior.

Yet somehow it happens now and didn't happen 10 years ago. "He was arrested 36 times for violent assaults and let go each time" has something to do with it as well as noticing that "deranged men" (euphemism used in one of the news reports by the only source willing to actually notice these things happening) are sane enough to shove smaller, less dangerous people in front of subway trains. Oh look, there is a logical reasoning process going on there related directly to cause, effect and consequences. Calling the person "schizophrenic" doesn't remove that and if it did then that's all the more reason to immediately execute those people as an uncontrollable danger to everyone around them.

Yet somehow it happens now and didn't happen 10 years ago.

Do you have a source for this claim? Or that it has to do with race, rather than "mental health" advocacy?

Establish your claims, don't just assert.

Calling the person "schizophrenic" doesn't remove that and if it did then that's all the more reason to immediately execute those people as an uncontrollable danger to everyone around them.

...what the fuck? How the hell is this a reasonable response? Most of these people are fine as long as they are on their meds. If you want a program to require them to take said medication (or remain in a mental hospital), fine. Executing them all is completely unreasonable.

Yet somehow it happens now and didn't happen 10 years ago.

Do you have a source for this claim?

No, there aren't newspaper reports from 10 years ago saying "today no one got shoved in front a subway train".

On the other hand, there are videos of it today.

This is an amazingly disingenuous request intended to both shift the burden of proof away from you - not great but part of the jockeying - but also to set yourself up as the arbiter - "sorry, just not proven to my satisfaction - maybe they were covering up all those subway deaths" and should actually result in a banning if people want this place to have good norms of discussion.

...what the fuck? How the hell is this a reasonable response? Most of these people are fine as long as they are on their meds

I don't care at all about the hypothetical situation where a subway murderer might be fine. If you want to argue "well, he's not responsible for his actions - couldn't help himself - schizophrenia and all" then the appropriate response is "well then obviously he must be executed and very quickly because a man who can't understand cause and effect who enjoys hurting people is basically a rabid dog".

So no, you don't have any evidence, beyond a vague impression of news reports. Glad to see that you want to engage in racial segregation and execute the mentally ill based on such ironclad evidence.

If you want to argue

I didn't argue those things.

You clearly have no interest in a good faith discussion; I look forward to the time when you get yourself banned.