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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 8, 2025

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I'm going to push back on the obey/believe or die spectrum. Communist Russian didn't require you to believe unless you were a party member, they just wanted you to obey. Same for Commie China. Nazi germany clearly wanted you to obey and be the right race or die.

notable exception of some regimes going after minority targets.

This is a pretty big exception in that the most common culturally accepted example of right wing oppression killed 6 million people based on their minority status. I don't know enough about Pol Pot/Cambodia to make the distinction of how much they wanted you to believe vs obey.

While it is true that some of this is probably true because of new social technologies generated by things like social media, it was safer in the religious days with the possible exception of a few minorities.

Again I disagree, somehow the oppressive elements run by the religious majority isn't classified by you as a "believe" categorization feels biased as hell. Pretty much every other oppressive religious government (Iranian Theocracy?) requires your belief. I'm not sure why the rosy tinted glasses about an oppressive Christian government. Also forgive me for not feeling it was safer that you could get fired/ostracized from your community for playing bloodly Dungeons and Dragons...

In contrast these days you have a much, much, MUCH larger group of society that is being oppressed...or at least feels that way.

I know you feel oppressed, I feel oppressed, and honestly I imagine the lefties still feel the cultural scars of the religious rights oppression. I don't feel that the religious right has shown any evidence of having learned from this experience and that if they return to power they will somehow say: "Let's put the super weapons back in the box, we learned that being an oppressive majority was not fun for the oppressed and have decided to be better this time around" So the lefties pretty much need to maintain power unless they want to be "killed for buttering the toast on the wrong side"

I personally prefer my tribe to do the oppressing from now on. We can call it the "Shut up, Grill and be an adult, or Die" oppression.

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