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True, I haven't turned down a woman's sexual advances so far.
They have a leads problem. They can't get dates. My bachelor friends average one date every 3-6 months. These are normie guys in their late 20s; none are ugly.
This is an exaggeration. My friends, and young men in general, are not giving up completely. They are just adjusting their strategy to a much more passive approach to dating. Almost like what you're describing. They (against my advice) let the woman their dating make all the first moves, which sometimes results in no moves at all.
These guys are all jerking off to porn, and have been for years. They don't approach attractive women in real life, and they're not trying to eek out an optimized hinge profile to get in the top elo rankings. I wouldn't say they've given up, but they're barely trying to play a heavily rigged game.
I'm lost. In a discussion about fertility (so, the ability of young men and young women to pairbond, marry, procreate and form a stable family), I understood you to claim the problem was rape accusations, which cause men to be fearful of dating.
I suggested that men exert self-restraint and not sleep with women until they're in a reasonably committed relationship, which for an individual would virtually remove the risk of rape accusations.
You said that this isn't possible in the fast dating market.
I asked why: what would happen if you did wait? Have your friends tried?
You claimed that your friends have tried, but it seems what they tried was becoming entirely passive about the whole relationship, never approaching attractive women, presumably not approaching unattractive women either, just staying home and jacking off. So at least on this end it appears you're presuming that if serial opportunistic seductions are off the table, the only alternative is non-engagement. And you attribute this to the women's agency, but can only give examples of men choosing to enforce that binary.
"Can't hook up, then dating's not worth it" is a fair strategy for someone doesn't enjoy actually spending platonic time with women, who's prioritizing sexual novelty, isn't picky about porn fantasy vs. real encounters, and wants to minimize the amount of romance/ attention/ effort/ commitment/ emotional engagement they give in exchange for orgasms-- that is, for someone who is not great father material, as the women have correctly identified. No shade to men who feel drawn to that path, mind you, but I don't see any relationship to fertility at all. PUAs aren't contributing to prosocial family formation any more than incels are.
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