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I think this all the time. 'News' is a mind-virus worthy of a bare few minutes a day--max. Yet it's addictive, somehow.
this is a long article, might take me some time to get through it, but one thing I notice straight off is the implicit assumption that all young people seem to share that "everything is political." It's just seeded into every aspect of everything everyone younger than 50 seems to want to talk about. It's not even questioned, it just is. I think this is a big part of the underlying problem because everyone is just desperate to be a Good Person (tm) and every life choice revolved around this basic motivation (even the people who overtly reject this have the same basic presumptions).
I really wish there were more "go fuck yourself" punks in the world. I feel like we need this energy to counteract the "I'm paddling my feet as fast as possible to be a Good Person (tm). I'm sick of Nice People (tm) and Good People (tm). It's not your job to save the world and trying to know every last detail about every possible threat to humanity just drives everyone insane.
I'll keep reading, it's not uninteresting just long. If something else catches my attention I'll reply again.
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