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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 15, 2026

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They don't even want to breed

Because contrary to the OP's opinion most people aren't slaves to biology. Most incels could passport bro it up, or pay for sex but its not what they really want. Want people want is to be desired for who they are, they want to self actualize, they want a partner.

Porn in all its easily available varieties

If women are getting out competed by 2D pixels and onlyfans models talking to you, then the blame is squarely on them. The "real-human" being problem cuts both ways. She's not going to find the romance novel dreamboat out there in the real world.

When you say “incel” in this context are you referring to the original template of a hideously, physically unattractive man or what an ordinary man is who can’t get laid because of women’s hyper inflated standards? Most men won’t date international because of high financial costs, cultural incompatibilities, no guarantee of a high payoff in your pursuit; and that situation isn’t improved for them either by your following suggestion that a man should commit crimes in order to get some. That’s about as useful as saying they could rape someone if they wanted to. A horrible suggestion as well.

I agree with you about what is at the root of these men’s desires. Men wanted to feel validated and loved as much as women do and many of them are willing to pay the cost of doing it. A man will often commit his entire life to his wife and kids doing bone crushing work, if he knows it’s making them happy and bringing them joy. It’s a pity so many women can’t see or appreciate that.

The latter-ish. The original circa 2015 definition for men who think they are the former but are mostly just average to slightly below average. But for who have certain levels of anxiety, neuroticism, autism/adhd, social anxiety, introversion and risk aversion so as to make it hard for them to find a partner.

man should commit crimes

This assumes that prostitution is legal if frowned upon.