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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 13, 2026

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They were both largely wrong about what begat capitalism / AI; Marxism was very insistent on labor value theory, and LW used to be very focused on symbolic AI/GOFAI/FOOM

Unless AI takeoff has already occurred, I'm not sure why you're declaring them wrong about this.

Inevitably, all such movements end up being co-opted by those very same Molochian dynamics, while never having actually done anything to prevent the Event or improve the chances of the Event leading to abundance (Mao, Stalin vs frontier lab regulatory capture and degrowth ideological capture).

We appear to be in the foothills of AI safety deployment. Governments are just now starting to act on AI. The big companies have deployed some resources for regulatory capture, but I've yet to see anything come of it, and there are just as many influential figures dedicated to ensuring zero regulation (i.e. Marc Andreesen)

And yet neither Marxism nor AI safety has ever achieved anything that might facilitate a more favorable outcome for the Event, whether it truly is imminent or not, and mostly have just made everything worse

Again, the event which hasn't happened yet. If you're making the argument that early LW stuff influenced people to eventually found OpenAI/Anthropic, then fair enough, but this is also a world away from saying "AI safety has [n]ever achieved anything"


It's a fundamentally different position from Marxism, where we have a whole host of negative examples of communism in action.

Unless AI takeoff has already occurred, I'm not sure why you're declaring them wrong about this.

I suppose you're correct, although it is my impression that ~everyone who believes in short AI timelines / AI safety regulation now believes in scaling compute being the way to AGI. Even non-LLM believers are primarily looking for new ways to apply the bitter lesson, and the focus of AI safety regulation is on trying to control world compute, which would be completely pointless if Gary Marcus got the final laugh vis a vis symbolic AI.

We appear to be in the foothills of AI safety deployment.

Again, the event which hasn't happened yet

Yeah, this is my point. Empirical evidence is that the sum total of AI safety's achievements is, against their own goals, to accelerate the founding of OpenAI/Anthropic and the AI race dynamic, while having made no progress on their actual goals (not even the authors expect Plan A to realistically happen).

Of course, it's possible they could turn it around and heroically pull humanity into post-scarcity abundance, the same way that Marxism still has time to eventuate the communist revolution (arguably it's kind of sort of happening with the DSA); but if the stakes are infinite, then there's nothing to do but keep going, even if you're going in the wrong direction, which is why getting Pascal's Mugged is so dangerous.

It's a fundamentally different position from Marxism, where we have a whole host of negative examples of communism in action.

This is the point I'm trying to make though; perhaps it was poorly communicated. At the turn of the 20th century, Marxism was in vogue amongst many Western intellectuals, because we had not yet seen what would happen with communism in action.

Right now, we are at the equivalent stage of AI safety, where it is in vogue in certain intellectual circles; we have not yet seen what will happen with AI safety, but it shares many structural similarities to the Marxist movements a hundred years ago.