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If the adverts were truly non-invasive and didn’t try hijacking my attention (or indeed the damn computer itself), I wouldn’t bother with an as blocker at all. I believe in content creators and businesses collecting the revenue for my use of their services to perpetuate themselves, but the industry as a whole hasn’t progressed much relative to the speed to technological advancement.
Modern technology is about custom answers to individuals, not about “macro efficiency” in the old economic sense. Compare the differences between the subscription model for television and the advertising model. If you’re using television to advertise (which is the old model), you want the least common denominator program. You want the show that everybody watches so you can stick in the ad and show it to the largest amount of people. Today, you’re looking to get the next subscriber. You now want the show that “somebody” wants to watch, but it’s someone who doesn’t watch the shows you’ve already sold them. This is what gets you niche programming. Thats why streaming platforms constantly struggle to find “the next 12 people” who want “that next weird show.” Because it they show it to someone who’s already been captured by your advertising efforts, that’s 0 profit. From a productivity standpoint in economic statistics, that’s a complete disaster; because you’re putting large amounts of resources into the smallest audiences possible; not the largest audience possible. That just looks bad in stats.
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