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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 6, 2023

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I don't understand what this has to do with my comment?

I'm saying that, if we go strictly by what liberalism allows, there's no solution to those "problems" either.

The exact same line of argument you raised could be raised against those groups and their interminable complaints.

But, imo, the sort of utter obtuseness about even the basic fact - let alone the solution - that OP is decrying is imo not that common in those cases when discussing with progressive liberals . They face the problems and can't seem to stop talking about them, even if many think solutions have to be slower (e.g. via "education", that great liberal panacea) since liberalism does place constraints.

So why does this happen for some groups but not others? Well, they simply don't care about certain groups. Clinton's brazen myopia was just an extreme example to illustrate the phenomenon: one side simply doesn't care and others...well, they apparently don't have Clinton's in-group loyalty.

tl;dr: Liberalism or limited solutions doesn't mean you can't care or discuss this. Not caring means you can't.

I'm saying that, if we go strictly by what liberalism allows, there's no solution to those "problems" either.

I agree, in the sense it would be just as immoral for those groups to employ various coercive measures to get others to form relationships with them.

But, imo, the sort of utter obtuseness about even the basic fact - let alone the solution - that OP is decrying is imo not that common in those cases when discussing with progressive liberals . They face the problems and can't seem to stop talking about them, even if many think solutions have to be slower (e.g. via "education", that great liberal panacea) since liberalism does place constraints.

Sure, I don't disagree that liberals are often more sensitive to issues impacting historically marginalized groups.