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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 6, 2023

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Because the 10% exists at all means an 11% can exist, and therefore a 12%, and so on. Thus, it is not biologically set in stone, and thus men and women who deviate from Western gender norms are not deviants brainwashed by feminism, but simply expressing natural instincts. The culture of social conservatism versus the culture of social progressivism I would argue is so vastly different that, well, you have the existence of transgendered folks fighting against people who think they are mentally ill. The fact that there are trans women who successfully pass in public defeats the argument that women and men have unchanging traits that make them inherently different, as Western gender roles would have one believe.

Because the 10% exists at all means an 11% can exist, and therefore a 12%, and so on.

So because I can turn my neck and some people can turn their necks more than others, I could turn my neck 270 degrees like an owl and be fine?

You say 11% and 12% with the implication that therefore it could be 100%. That doesn't really follow.

There are many things that can vary somewhat from environment, but remain mostly biological. Height would be an obvious example. People can vary in height by 10% based on nutrition while they were growing, but that doesn't mean that it can vary 100% or that it is arbitrary. If you want to argue that gender roles are in a different category, then you need a better argument than that.

The existence of successfully passing trans women does prove it can be 100%, otherwise, every single trans woman, no matter how much surgery they had, would be instantly recognizable as a man due to their mannerisms violating their gender role. But there are trans women who walk around you all the time who you wouldn't know were trans if they didn't tell you.

That doesn't follow either. Gender roles aren't "mannerisms." That just goes back to the 10% aesthetic differences, but if the only difference was how you put one leg over the other, gender roles would hardly even be worth mentioning.

Your posts make me wonder if you even think that gender roles are anything besides the aesthetic portion. That would certainly explain why you think they are entirely relative and arbitrary.

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