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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 11, 2023

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This is additional information that one had to look up about the modder...

Yes, because we were getting to the point that I had to actually bring that stuff up.

You are correct, however, that we are speaking on a separate argument, one about whether there is any coherent meaning to be found in one's modding choices.

And talking about "context" doesn't actually add anything to this, because "context" isn't the issue; the modding choices didn't tell us anything about whether the modder was racist, with or without the additional details that added context - it was those additional details that told us whether the modder was racist.

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What do you think context even means if not the details for why something is or is not racist?

Well, one reason is that when people are talking about "progressives," they're usually talking about a set of people who voluntarily signed up for a particular sociopolitical cause.

There are a great many people who adopt their views through osmosis. For example, streamer Hasan claims that he is a socialist, but watch his streams and you'll realize how fundamentally unserious he is about making socialism happen. According to you, I am supposed to take his words seriously instead of considering anything about revealed beliefs/preferences.

I also personally find it hard to argue against such psychoanalysis of progressives when they perfectly match the mentality that I myself lived through as a progressive...It's that when I see someone who clearly understands my own thinking so well despite never having met me, much less been within my mind, it gives me pause and makes me want to listen rather than argue.

If you think that your mentality may have just been your own, then the next step would be to ask how many progressives shared your mentality. That's the relevant question, not whether you personally experienced what is being described.

And this step, if one is intellectually honest, is to admit that we can't assign meaningfully accurate probabilities to these reasons that aren't just dominated by our own biases.

What a black-pilled take, to forgo the opportunity to ever exercise your mind and produce accurate statistics/percentages because you would be biased!

I don't believe you. I don't believe for a moment that you don't trust the percentages your mind constructs in a great deal of other instances. This is a perfect example of an isolate demand for rigor.

I think there is no more value to be gained from continuing this discussion. So we shall, as you say, agree to disagree.

I think there is no more value to be gained from continuing this discussion. So we shall, as you say, agree to disagree.

I'm impressed by the balls you have to repeatedly put false words in my mouth and to project your own insecurities onto me and then end with an "agree to disagree." It's legit admirable.

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