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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
Strong feels that she was dismissed as a result of her discussions on Israel and Gaza; you can check her twitter and likes listings over the last week if you'd like. Boxtown has not officially stated why, just that it happened, and I'd be surprised if they ever explicitly state why. It's possible that they just got sick of her outspoken veganism, but I don't think that's particularly plausible.
((I'm... pretty sure social conservatives could come up more examples.))
I don't think matters said out of grief are always permissible or moral. These are... basically boomer-level takes, in both cases, though (sometimes literally in Strong's case). To a large extent, they are just especially unacceptable to the cancellers because of the bad actions of the people these speakers were focusing on; the cancellers do not want the bad actions or applause of small numbers of bad actors associated with a broader social group. Which would be a lot more compelling were people to Well Ackshually them, rather than tell everyone in their field that discussions near this topic with the wrong positions Are Not Allowed.
I'm not sure there's a word yet for the problem that this presents, but a framework where sufficiently bad actions by themselves justify exacting standards of discourse for those trying to criticize those bad actions gives some very bad possible feedback loops.
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Strong feels that she was dismissed as a result of her discussions on Israel and Gaza; you can check her twitter and likes listings over the last week if you'd like. Boxtown has not officially stated why, just that it happened, and I'd be surprised if they ever explicitly state why. It's possible that they just got sick of her outspoken veganism, but I don't think that's particularly plausible.
LexManos officially separated over long-standing personality conflicts, but the actual turning point was his reaction to the Nashville School Shooting.
((I'm... pretty sure social conservatives could come up more examples.))
I don't think matters said out of grief are always permissible or moral. These are... basically boomer-level takes, in both cases, though (sometimes literally in Strong's case). To a large extent, they are just especially unacceptable to the cancellers because of the bad actions of the people these speakers were focusing on; the cancellers do not want the bad actions or applause of small numbers of bad actors associated with a broader social group. Which would be a lot more compelling were people to Well Ackshually them, rather than tell everyone in their field that discussions near this topic with the wrong positions Are Not Allowed.
I'm not sure there's a word yet for the problem that this presents, but a framework where sufficiently bad actions by themselves justify exacting standards of discourse for those trying to criticize those bad actions gives some very bad possible feedback loops.
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