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Israel-Gaza Megathread #2
This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
Except Palestinian authorities are highly corrupt and enrich themselves where they can. They're like most Third World leaders in that way.
You could frame it as the old autocratic/oligarchic dilemma of "a big piece of the pie for me under this stable but awful equilibrium" vs "let's try something new for the possible betterment of everyone and the likely immiseration of me and my class (and maybe it won't even fucking work)". It looks very different from that angle.
All that said, I reject the starting assumption of OP that the deal is even on the table. Putting aside all of the awful shit that's happened, even pretending that Palestinians would all happily join the Tel Aviv Pride Parade or meet whatever arbitrary standard of assimilation we set, if Israelis want an ethnostate - which many Israelis self-evidently do - it simply cannot be. For such people there are diminishing returns to having some of the Good Ones.
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Except Palestinian authorities are highly corrupt and enrich themselves where they can. They're like most Third World leaders in that way.
You could frame it as the old autocratic/oligarchic dilemma of "a big piece of the pie for me under this stable but awful equilibrium" vs "let's try something new for the possible betterment of everyone and the likely immiseration of me and my class (and maybe it won't even fucking work)". It looks very different from that angle.
All that said, I reject the starting assumption of OP that the deal is even on the table. Putting aside all of the awful shit that's happened, even pretending that Palestinians would all happily join the Tel Aviv Pride Parade or meet whatever arbitrary standard of assimilation we set, if Israelis want an ethnostate - which many Israelis self-evidently do - it simply cannot be. For such people there are diminishing returns to having some of the Good Ones.
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