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zataomm  1yr ago (text post)   6705 thread views

Colorado Supreme Court Thread

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I don't know to what extent there are established precedents for when a topic is worthy of a mega-thread, but this decision seems like a big deal to me with a lot to discuss, so I'm putting this thread here as a place for discussion. If nobody agrees then I guess they just won't comment.

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I enjoy your effort-posts about law, so criticize Unikowsky to your heart's content!

At least for Espinoza, Montana's argument was pretty much just one too-clever-by-half argument after another:

  • Discrimination is bad. But unlike discrimination on race, which is never permissible (though see his commentary on SFFA here, which does not make the same division), discrimination on matters of religion are permitted because of the establishment clause, so long as it does not discriminate from one religion to another. Sure, this amendment was near-certainly motivated by dislike of Catholics in its original form, and the analysis when the state constitution was reenacted was perfunctory, but it's not from the Champagne region of France, so why look closer?
  • Wait, what does that whole "free exercise clause" thing mean, then? Oh, it requires his preferred position, too: access to a nonsectarian and generally applicable fund might give "government leverage to influence religious education", so the free exercise and establishment clauses together doubly mandate a rule against funding being available to religious people. You thought perhaps it would be wiser to stop government influence of religious education by allowing states to challenge government influence of religious education, so I'm sure Unikowsky will eventually have some commentary on the ministerial exception someday, but it's not happened yet.
  • And the various process concerns Montana raised in the brief are pretty pretextual. There wasn't a federal question or a bunch of other similarly prescribed other state laws, despite the existence of Blaine Amendments in over a dozen other states or the state's interpretation of the federal constitution, because there's some very specific things about how the program was funded or how the Montana Court blew up the program. Any other case would have these sort of specifics, if different in detail, but it's an argument, throw it against the wall.

With regards to Unikowsky's position on clever interpretations, how do you think a litigator's arguments on behalf of clients should be weighed against the views they independently express?

I think it's a more plausible argument for public defenders than it is for people on the SCOTUS bar. Unikowsky was not assigned to work with Montana out of some computerized selection criteria or preset longstanding contract. At minimum, he joined Jenner and Block knowing it was arguing these sort of cases with this sort of valiance, he's done so in a variety of contexts (eg whether public employees can be fired for inadvertent misgendering), and some of those he's argued separately from his clients or employer. More likely, while he wasn't the sole decision-maker, he had a pretty sizable degree of control and advocacy, and personally chose to be involved in the case.

Within that context, there are still some places where I can understand someone just having to work with what they've got -- Unikowsky's response to the animus discussion is misleading, but heightened-rational-basis-because-animus is basically fatal, so if you don't have better arguments yolo, okay. But his statement in AshLael's link is about what he sees as what the role of SCOTUS; if that's not the same thing as what's more likely to succeed before SCOTUS, it means nothing.

My argument is not about Unikowsky's credibility as a lawyer (I don't, frankly, know). It's about whether his analysis tells you anything about what the courts will do, or even about what principles he thinks the courts should follow in general, rather than just what he thinks will get him his way in a given case.

I think it's a more plausible argument for public defenders than it is for people on the SCOTUS bar. Unikowsky was not assigned to work with Montana out of some computerized selection criteria or preset longstanding contract. At minimum, he joined Jenner and Block knowing it was arguing these sort of cases with this sort of valiance, he's done so in a variety of contexts (eg whether public employees can be fired for inadvertent misgendering), and some of those he's argued separately from his clients or employer. More likely, while he wasn't the sole decision-maker, he had a pretty sizable degree of control and advocacy, and personally chose to be involved in the case.

At what levels do litigators argue in the interests of their own interpretations of the Constitution, rather than the interests of their client or a preferred alternative to the status quo, with respect to the specific controversy of the case? Are the arguments at SCOTUS the personal interpretations of the litigators, or the arguments they think are most likely to succeed with respect to the specific controversy of the case?

I'd argue that if you're writing a substack that pushes entirely based on your career as a SCOTUS-barred lawyer, and you talk about success in one situation, and personal interpretations in the other situation, even if you're being absolutely honest, if you make absolutely zero distinction in writing, there's absolutely zero reason to care what you say, or take it seriously as anything but a way to talk other people into believing something you'd never do.

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